Buying a boat with Osmosis

[Dave3729]

I am looking at buying a boat that has Osmosis a Colvic 35 Sunquest it is a very large upgrade from what i had. The problem is it has 10 blisters Osmosis which i have been advised would not need treating for 3 years is this a serious case as i have no idea. Does anyone no what sort of cost this would be. Also has anyone an idea of the weight of a Covic 35 Sunquest.
Thanks for your help
Dave

 

[DAVIDO]

Buy It Buy It! Its my boat. Really i dont know. Before listening to other opinions re my earlier post i would have run a mile, now im thinking its not so serious and would just screw the vendor to the floor!

 

[smileygirl]

get a quote from fox's marina in ipswich and others all around the coast. (avoid anyone around south coast unless you own a merchant bank) - measure the size of the blisters and don't get too worried by what you may hear on this forum.
no boat with osmosis ever sank and it can be fixed - just a question of when to do it. If boat is kept out of water every winter you may never need to do anything about it

 

[Dave3729]

Thanks kevin and david made me feel alot better the quote for £10000 was from the south coast Eastbourne. Iam looking to moor round the blackwater so thats made me feel alot better. The seller said he has had local quotes of 5000 but you never no if hes telling the truth. The boat is a 1990 and i have worked out that spending 5000 on it will leave it costing me 40000 in total as i am trading in my boat at a guess i would say as the inside and outside is well looked after i would say it would be at least worth 50000 would you think that would be true for a Colvic Sunquest 35 1990 ?

 

[longjohnsilver]

10 blisters, easy to deal with, you could do it yourself taking probably less than a day.

 

[oceanfroggie]

Get 10-15k off the price and have the whole underside redone over the next few years (ie gel coat stripped, dried, treated via vacum pads, chemically treated, dried, recoated and antifouled). It's a big job but well worth doing once osmossis gets hold of a hull. Beware there are some so called professionals who do botch jobs and just cover over the problem, which may take 3-5 years to come back and haunt you, but it will. Heated vacum pads and treatment is the only way to get the moisture and chemicals out of the grp layers. (ie stripping and recoating is not enough)

 

[D3B]

Dave
I am no expert but please see my reply on boat sale thread

Doug

 

[oldgit]

Be very very sure this is the boat you really really want because of design/shape/space right/engine size/good overall condition/much loved boat etc,and not just because you can get a dirt cheap deal including your p/x.There has been one of these for sale on the Medway for years and it is now ashore still looking for an owner.Always liked the look of this particular boat,believe is a Colvic hull and most were then fitted out by DIY owners.The local boat was last up for sale @ 55k.Good luck and hope all goes well.

 

[Micky]

I can't believe that a boat with a bit of Osmosis would cost 10k to treat. Then what's the point? as it would NOT guarantee that Osmosis would not return.

IMHO, the word Osmosis is a way to rip off a seller, scaremongering them to part with a perfectly good boat for a lot less money then it's worth.
I also see it as a method for so called repairers to give themselves, an easy money grabbing income.

Osmosis is no worse then a bit of chassis rot on a car, easy to repair if you know how.

That's my opinion anyway.

 

[DAKA]

I would buy a boat with osmosis, it can be a way of getting a good boat at an affordable price.

BUT you need to knock off 150% of the treatment cost.

Even after treatment there are plenty of buyers who would walk away and so the boats value will be permanently reduced.

Once you have bought it at a bargain price there is no need to treat it just declare when you sell it and reduce the sale price.

If it is only a small area then you could treat it yourself as others have said.

 

[Micky]

So would i, especially if it was a cheap one priced up for 10k.

Could the sale go like this

On inspection the boat has Osmosis /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

That's going to cost 10k+ to sort out mate /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

How much will you pay me to take the boat off your hands /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Christ i could make a fortune, i'm off round to a few boat yards. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[DAKA]

Long story but yes this almost happened to me

I bought a boat that was very cheap (latter found it was cheap as it had osmosis)

Owner boat yard who sold it to me didnt tell me why it was cheap.

I set a legal team on them to recover the cost of repairs plus costs, plus a bit thrown in for reduced resale value.

When I sold the boat I declared the osmosis (untreated) to the new buyer and I made a very healthy profit.

Anyone know what happened to Dave Derritt and Robert Hardman T/A Severn yacht brokers ??????

 

[Micky]

Good for you Daka.

Never made much on boat's myself, but as a car dealer, i did find a few pots of gold. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Dave3729]

If a boat is brought and treated for Osmosis is it prone to come back then ? And how would anyone know if it had been treated when or if i ever wanted to sell it.

 

[Micky]

Short answer to that is YES.

 

[KREW2]

Maybe this will help you make up your own mind.
http://www.yachtsurvey.com/blisters.htm
It helped me put it into perspective.
Good luck whatever you decide.

 

[Dave3729]

Thanks Racylady that Web site info was great left me feeling a whole lot better.