BSP not what it seems

To Scottie
Apologies for my ungracious comment on your contribution. (Note to self: avoid posting after a long working day and a couple of drinks!)
I work with BSP all the time in the piping of minor systems and connection of instruments but i dont have all the answers so this thread is interesting.

To Marsupial - yes of course you are right. In fact IIRC BSP nominal sizes were based on the internal diameter of cast iron pipes made in Victorian times.
Schedule 40 Pipe has a bore that is approximately the same as the nominal size, but this is way heavier wall thickness than people would normally use on boats.
Fact remains though that BSP has been adopted into the metric system.

NPT = National pipe Thread is an american equivalent system that works on same pipe Outside diameters but uses a different number of threads per inch (in all except one size)
Thread form is different too at 60 degrees for NPT but 55 degrees for BSP.
(People selling instruments and devices with NPT fittings in Metric countries are known to be motherless and will be first against the wall when the revolution comes ;))

David 2452 - In terms of through hulls i am interested in your comment about using fibre washer to seal the end face. I have a thru hull and valve with no internal end face to seal against and dont think i have seen such a thing can you elaborate?

Finally a tip to anyone using teflon thread tape: You need to wind the thread tape on in the clockwise direction as you look at the end of the pipe.
This is much easier if you hold the thread tape roll so that is unwinding backwards as it were. Most people start by rolling the tape around as if it were normal sticky tape but this is wrong. Turn a it over so that the "back" of the tape is going onto the thread and you can then keep a constant tension on the roll by the friction of your fingers.
Start at the inboard end of the thread and work towards the end of the pipe or fitting.
It doesnt have a sticky side so it doesn't matter which way up it goes, but it is a lot easier backwards.!

Regards
 
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John the kiwi;...... Fact remains though that BSP has been adopted into the metric system...... Regards[/QUOTE said:
Surely it would be more correct to say that the Metric system has come into line with BSP?
 
To Scottie

David 2452 - In terms of through hulls i am interested in your comment about using fibre washer to seal the end face. I have a thru hull and valve with no internal end face to seal against and dont think i have seen such a thing can you elaborate?
Regards

Yes, I have used ball valves (1 1/2" BSPP) with a face at the bottom of the thread, not perfect but it does provide a seal, wouldn't want to use one in a high pressure environment but for this purpose it works well.
 
Mind you, in the past they were poor about mixing up their brass/bronze/DZR fittings in open bins. I think they've got better at that since the issue became more widely known. They do still stock a lot of plain brass though, with nothing suggesting it's not a good idea for underwater use. Fine in small sizes for fuel and freshwater plumbing, but what is the average leisure sailor going to do with a 1-1/2" brass elbow except use it inappropriately for seawater?
It does happen!... i've just had a brass 1 1/2 elbow delivered today for the fuel tank inlet.... admit its not the normal use though!
 
SNIP

BSP has been adopted wholesale into the metric system. I worked in Germany and routinely specified BSP as part of the project specs.

SNIP

It is worth remembering that the definition of the inch is now in terms of metric units; the inch is defined as exactly 25.4 mm. For most purposes, metric units are the fundamental ones, with non-metric units being defined in terms of them.

The metric (SI) units are being redefined in terms of fundamental physical constants such as the speed of light, Planck's constant and similar; this makes them very robust and repeatable. Forget about the bar of platinum in Paris!
 
Worth noting that the BSP sizes nowadays are not officially dimensions, in any unit. They are just size numbers, in the same way as "a number 4 wood-screw".

Pete
 
That is probably because they were developed for gas piping which was then used for conduit for electricity a water when they moved away from lead

Conduit for electric cables is/was entirely different. Measured a different way, (OD as opposed to ID), and with different threads.
 
Conduit for electric cables is/was entirely different. Measured a different way, (OD as opposed to ID), and with different threads.

Indeed, and I still have the dies a whitness, used the 1" one only this week on some galvanised conduit aboard a ship, and found some joining nipples in my stock which I must have bought in LSD !!
 
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