BS3212:1991 Replaced by BS EN16436

[Halo]

I just recieved some gas hose marked EN16436. I had ordered BS3212. I looked into it and found that BS3212 is an obsolete standard which has been replaced by EN16436. The Boat Safety Scheme says relevant grades of 16436 are acceptable.
You are more likely to get a younger hose with a longer life if you specifiy the current standard.
Is anyone aware pf any issues with using the new standard hose ???

 

[VicS]

I just recieved some gas hose marked EN16436. I had ordered BS3212. I looked into it and found that BS3212 is an obsolete standard which has been replaced by EN16436. The Boat Safety Scheme says relevant grades of 16436 are acceptable.
You are more likely to get a younger hose with a longer life if you specifiy the current standard.
Is anyone aware pf any issues with using the new standard hose ???

Note that there are 3 classes relevant to LPG

Class 1 for low pressures ,( up to 200 mb) which replaces the old standard BS 3212 type 1

Class 2 for pressures up to 10 bar

Class 3 for pressures up to 30 bar.
I believe this is the one which should replace the old BS3212 type 2 for the high pressure connection between gas bottles and regulator.

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[Momac]

I just recieved some gas hose marked EN16436. I had ordered BS3212. I looked into it and found that BS3212 is an obsolete standard which has been replaced by EN16436. The Boat Safety Scheme says relevant grades of 16436 are acceptable.
You are more likely to get a younger hose with a longer life if you specifiy the current standard.
Is anyone aware pf any issues with using the new standard hose ???

The EN16436 standard marked on the hose does not alone mean it may be younger as both standards have been in place since EN 16436 was introduced in 2014.

The following is from 2015
NR15-003 New LPG hose standard statement | Boat Safety Scheme | Go Boating - Stay Safe

 

[Halo]

That’s true Martyn G but as BS3212 is obsolete I would expect manufacturers to start using the current one on new hoses. As my supplier has found!

 

[LadyInBed]

From the link in #3
The BSS wants to make it clear that it will continue to accept hose marked to BS 3212 Type 2 as long as the hose remains in good condition.

It believes that manufacturers will continue to mark their LPG hose products to BS 3212 Type 2 until the standard is withdrawn by British Standards Institute (BSI) and that may not happen for some time.

So don't expect to get the latest spec if the supplier still has in date old spec in stock.

 

[Halo]

"The BSS wants to make it clear that it will continue to accept hose marked to BS 3212 Type 2 as long as the hose remains in good condition.

It believes that manufacturers will continue to mark their LPG hose products to BS 3212 Type 2 until the standard is withdrawn by British Standards Institute (BSI) and that may not happen for some time. "

All above is true BUT the "may not happen for some time" statement was made some time ago (5 years ago at least) and the BS3212 standard HAS been withdrawn by BSI.

My point was to order the new spec to reduce the chance of getting hose with a years ago date of manufacture on it. The last time I purchased hose from a well known chandler it was years old when it arrived. Personally I would prefer to avoid explaining to surveyors etc that although the hose was made years ago the clock should only start ticking when the hose is installed - better to have a newer hose to the latest spec rather than an acceptable historic artifact with a debatable expiry date.

Perhaps its just me that is selfish. If I go to the supermarket I will pick up the bag of salad with a long future date on it rather than the odd remaining one that goes out of date tomorrow. Suppliers stock rotation is their business not mine !!

 

[VicS]

My point was to order the new spec to reduce the chance of getting hose with a years ago date of manufacture on it. The last time I purchased hose from a well known chandler it was years old when it arrived. Personally I would prefer to avoid explaining to surveyors etc that although the hose was made years ago the clock should only start ticking when the hose is installed - better to have a newer hose to the latest spec rather than an acceptable historic artifact with a debatable expiry date.

Perhaps its just me that is selfish. If I go to the supermarket I will pick up the bag of salad with a long future date on it rather than the odd remaining one that goes out of date tomorrow. Suppliers stock rotation is their business not mine !!

The clock starts ticking from the date of manufacture ie the date printed on the hose. It makes no difference which standard it complies with, its accepted life is 5 years from the date printed on it and that is the date the surveyor will go by.., If its already several years old when you buy it tell the supplier where they can fit it.
(We all know of course that in practice it will lst a lot longer but I am nervous about it ever since I had some which I had been keeping inthe garage split lengthways as I fitted it .)