Brian's lost his glasses ... long post

[Peppermint]

Re: Thats all right then

I think a bit of banter is OK in this circumstance. Jimi will soon kick my arse if I'm wrong.

Your right though. This experience stuff can be hard won.

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[Little_Russel]

Re: Brian\'s lost his glasses ... long post

Was it the water in the dodger that bent the stanchion? If so this has always been one of the dangers of dodgers.

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[sailorman]

Re: Brian\'s lost his glasses ... long post

i learnt to use "shock cord" on the bottom edge of dodgers after a heavy sail to Belgium on my Contessa 32 some years ago. (bottom eyelets ripped out)

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[Chris_Robb]

Re: Thats all right then

Jimi loves a bit of banter - wait till the AWB one surfaces, I'm not going to start it ...............

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[Chris_Robb]

Jimi - now for the lessons learnt

Jimi - now we need to know what you learnt from this little episode.

1. Is Jonah really such a problem - should you now start to go to church on Sundays instead of sailing?

2. Would a heavier boat have had the same problems (had to bring it up)

3. how did the crew in the cockpit fare when knocked down.

Etc.

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[BlueSkyNick]

Re: Brian\'s lost his glasses ... long post

I was thinking about the crew in the cockpit too, and assumed they were suitably clipped on.

Either way, I'd be interested to know how they coped.

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[Little_Russel]

Re: Brian\'s lost his glasses ... long post

Was running before a gale towards a lee shore a good move? Perhaps plugging to windward, with three reefs in, would have been safer. You could also possibly have motor-sailed. It would have been wet and slow and cold but you would have had sea-room. However it is all very well sitting in front of a warm computer! I was not there and in your predicament. All the best when you go and get her.

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[jimi]

Re: Brian\'s lost his glasses ... long post

Um would suggest that we were running towards a safe haven ie Cherbourg with a very large entrance. I was very aware of the lee shore situation but considered it really only to be an issue if

1) we had gone for the western entrance and just failed to make it. This was a major consideration in my navigational strategy!
2) we missed Cherbourg altogether

I also had a "dodgy" engine ie an oil leak and did'nt want to rely on it for battering to windward for a long period. The angle of the wind and the tide set was such that Cherbourg was an 'easy make'. The issue here really was how far the the overfalls extended off Cap de la Hague.
The forecast we had been given earlier indicated that the weather was worse to the north and west. And therefore running to the south east was probably the correct decision.

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[jimi]

Re: Brian\'s lost his glasses ... long post

The stanchion was bent in on the downhill side, so I presume that it was bent initially on the knockdown, you're right I had them tied on ... I remember thinking at the time of tying them on that I should use breakable or stretchable stuff ... but then thought .. "och it'll be OK" Bit of the sprayhood was torn, but not sure if that was the water or a heid! Lindsey was tied on with a stretchy lifeline but all the stretch got broken out it.

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[themount2]

Re: Brian\'s lost his glasses ... long post

Well done Jimi and Crew, sounds like a bit of an adventure. Glad you are all safe and well.
Brian

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[tome]

Re: Brian\'s lost his glasses ... long post

Jimi

We once ran into Cherbourg W entrance in NE9 with horrible seas and it presented no problems at all (even though I was highly apprehensive about the approach). The seas were still quite wild in the outer rade, and it wasn't until we were in the marina that it really calmed down.

Think Cherbourg was a good choice, but suspect winds must have been more N than NE? Otherwise Weymouth would have been an option.

Glad to hear you all made it back in one piece.

Tom

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[Robin]

Re: Brian\'s lost his glasses ... long post

The West Entrance is relatively benign IMO and it is very wide, but the East Entrance In N or NE gales is horrendous. I think there is a very rough bottom off the East Entrance that kicks up the water even in moderate winds, plus it is much narrower with less room for error.

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[jimi]

Photo after knockdown

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[Dave_Snelson]

I have a confession to make...

I too was out there at that time in my Glastron 209, and in my haste to get back to the bar (no, the bar for drinks, not the nautical one) I passed too close by your 331. The resultant wash caused by my over exhuberant leap at 25kts from one wave crest to another must have caused the bang you experienced. On the other hand, the bang could have been caused by the water skier I was towing at the time. He seemed OK about it all though!

Sorry - I'll remember to slow down next time.

No real harm done eh!

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[Robin]

Re: Photo after knockdown

OOPs!

Is the deck damaged or just the stanchion bent? Probably wouldn't have saved it if the dodgers were laced top & ends only although that is generally best, it does assume the load is from a side deck inside to overboard wave though.

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[jimi]

Re: Photo after knockdown

Just the stanchion bent, got a new one in Cherbourg where they seem a bit cheaper. The guard wire will need to be replaced as a couple of strands have broken and it has stretched ..

1 deck cleat fitting for the genoa tracks that I kept in the cockpit table.. gone

and that's about it.
Lindsey had his HH GPS loose in the cockpit and we just assumed it had gone .. but on mooring up we found it perched on the deck retained solely by the toe rail
... amazing


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