Cavalierbond
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Paint them to match the beach huts at seaview holiday park and they could be on to a winner
Bradwell B Nuclear Power Station
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MoodySabre
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The height of the towers is a minor matter. The short term and permanent damage to life on the Dengie is horrific.
If anybody needs a link Consultation documents – Bradwell B Project Site
If anybody needs a link Consultation documents – Bradwell B Project Site
Major_Clanger
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I largely echo the thoughts of others; nuclear energy is generally okay but not when the Chinese are involved.
There's a strong counter-argument though... The Dengie is a strange and oddly charming place but it's close to London and has a good rail link to the capital. On that basis, if Bradwell A hadn't been built then I suspect the whole of the Dengie, plus large parts of the Blackwater shoreline would be covered in grotty estates by now. Perhaps, in a perverse way, Bradwell B will save Dengie, Mersea et al from too much development.
There's a strong counter-argument though... The Dengie is a strange and oddly charming place but it's close to London and has a good rail link to the capital. On that basis, if Bradwell A hadn't been built then I suspect the whole of the Dengie, plus large parts of the Blackwater shoreline would be covered in grotty estates by now. Perhaps, in a perverse way, Bradwell B will save Dengie, Mersea et al from too much development.
Tomahawk
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Moody...
I used to work in the mining and quarrying industry at the digging end.. Despite what the bug huggers and twitchers will try and make out.... I can tell you from experience that as soon as you stop digging and walk away, everything that crawls, flies and slithers moves straight back in. AS long as there is a reasonable resovir of wildlife in the nearish neighbourhood. the existing fauna and flora will re-establish in a matter of a a few seasons..
As to size... you need to look at Cardington.. Where they built the airships. Those hangers are so huge you get clouds inside them... yet when you look at them... from the nearby hill they don't appear to be out of placce because the mind doesn't compute them without something else to compare with.
But again.. Chinese.. no thanks
I used to work in the mining and quarrying industry at the digging end.. Despite what the bug huggers and twitchers will try and make out.... I can tell you from experience that as soon as you stop digging and walk away, everything that crawls, flies and slithers moves straight back in. AS long as there is a reasonable resovir of wildlife in the nearish neighbourhood. the existing fauna and flora will re-establish in a matter of a a few seasons..
As to size... you need to look at Cardington.. Where they built the airships. Those hangers are so huge you get clouds inside them... yet when you look at them... from the nearby hill they don't appear to be out of placce because the mind doesn't compute them without something else to compare with.
But again.. Chinese.. no thanks
MoodySabre
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I was referring to the quality of life for residents.
johnalison
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Thanks for the link. I had no idea the site was so enormous. Although I am not directly involved myself, I will be sorry to see St Peter's having such a near neighbour, and, as you say, life for local residents coud be hard for a long time.
DavidofMersea
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Apart from the odd farm, are there any residents east of Bradwell and Burnham?
MoodySabre
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There are quite a few houses along the road to Bradwell and villages too. I have friends who live in Bradwell village. Just look at the traffic movements and the number of employees and vast accommodation required. They all need to travel, to buy groceries etc. The whole area will get swamped on an ongoing basis and open spaces will disappear.
I'm nearly 74 so by the time all the planning stuff has been dealt with I expect that I might not be sailing. The owner of the marina will cash in on the developement of his land but all that and the river restrictions and traffic both on the roads and water will detract from the great sailing location it is now.
DavidofMersea
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What you say is true, but there will also be new straight and level roads, a big supermarket or two, probably a hospital, a new school, sports facilities, etc etc. and increased house prices if they want to sell. The village might get a by-pass
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Cavalierbond
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I’d say the current prices would decrease due to a whopping nuclear power station installation ....
PeterWright
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No, I don't, but I have no reason to doubt Tillergirl's assessment. The newly clad reactor buildings will be about 3m (or less) lower than when that plant was in service because all they removed before recladding were the 60" plus heat insulation top gas ducts - the boilers remain standing.
In the two views in the consultation document, one of them from W. Mersea boardwalk, clearly shows the cooling towers taller than the old reactor buildings and in the other, from East End Road, Bradwell, the old reactor buildings are largely hidden behind the two proposed new taller reactor buildings.
Peter.
DavidofMersea
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Why? there will be a great demand for houses, and because of limited supply, prices will increase
Egbod
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East and West confused? What else could be incorrect?
The Bradwell B power station proposal contains some possible factual error in the consultation documents.
I have a couple of consultation documents for the proposed Bradwell B, Have your say and the Stage one – consultation summary document.
They both have what I think may be a significant factual error.
Both refer to the new power station being built on land immediately to the south and west of the existing Bradwell power station.
I would consider the proposed main power station and cooling towers to be shown to the south and EAST of the existing power station.
This is potentially very concerning- do they know what they are doing?
The pages with west and not EAST are:
In the Bradwell B Have your say leaflet (as sent to me in the post)-
Front page, column 3 “Bradwell B, a new nuclear power station, would be built on land immediately to the south and west of the existing Bradwell power station…….”
Second page, column 2 “Design and environment
We are proposing to locate the power station on the higher ground to the south and west of the existing power station. ….”
In the Bradwell B Stage One – Consultation Summary Document (I got mine in Maldon library)-
Page 6 3. The Power Station
Column 1 “We are proposing to build Bradwell B power station on land immediately to the south and west of the existing Bradwell power station, ….”
Column 3 Design and Environment
We are proposing to locate the power station on the higher ground to the south and west of Bradwell Power Station. ….”
I have managed a quick look at the larger Bradwell B consultation document.
It doesn’t seem to me to have been fully prepared. Some of the information in the early pages appears twice- in different places. However on page 18 section 2.6.1 - the first two paragraphs appear to be identical to me. So it hasn’t been checked effectively.
The location description in paragraph 2.6.3 is more accurate as it does describe the site using “ …… and lies immediately to the south and east of the existing Bradwell power station.”
The Bradwell B power station proposal contains some possible factual error in the consultation documents.
I have a couple of consultation documents for the proposed Bradwell B, Have your say and the Stage one – consultation summary document.
They both have what I think may be a significant factual error.
Both refer to the new power station being built on land immediately to the south and west of the existing Bradwell power station.
I would consider the proposed main power station and cooling towers to be shown to the south and EAST of the existing power station.
This is potentially very concerning- do they know what they are doing?
The pages with west and not EAST are:
In the Bradwell B Have your say leaflet (as sent to me in the post)-
Front page, column 3 “Bradwell B, a new nuclear power station, would be built on land immediately to the south and west of the existing Bradwell power station…….”
Second page, column 2 “Design and environment
We are proposing to locate the power station on the higher ground to the south and west of the existing power station. ….”
In the Bradwell B Stage One – Consultation Summary Document (I got mine in Maldon library)-
Page 6 3. The Power Station
Column 1 “We are proposing to build Bradwell B power station on land immediately to the south and west of the existing Bradwell power station, ….”
Column 3 Design and Environment
We are proposing to locate the power station on the higher ground to the south and west of Bradwell Power Station. ….”
I have managed a quick look at the larger Bradwell B consultation document.
It doesn’t seem to me to have been fully prepared. Some of the information in the early pages appears twice- in different places. However on page 18 section 2.6.1 - the first two paragraphs appear to be identical to me. So it hasn’t been checked effectively.
The location description in paragraph 2.6.3 is more accurate as it does describe the site using “ …… and lies immediately to the south and east of the existing Bradwell power station.”
MoodySabre
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Quite. The absence of these things is why people live in the country. The village doesn't need a bypass - the traffic will not go through it.
DavidofMersea
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I don't believe people live in the countryside because there are no supermarkets, hospital, new school, sports facilities, etc etc.
If the traffic will not go hrough the village I cnnot understand why people are complaining about the volume of traffic
MoodySabre
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1400 lorry movements a day for years. 9000 persons during years of building and then 3000 permanent employees. Have you ever driven to Bradwell David?
DavidofMersea
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What is the problem with 1400 lorry movements a day ( A figure I find hard to believe) if they re not going through the village? ....and work for many people, now and in future?
Yes, I have driven to Bradwell
BoyBlue49
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David
What you mean is urban sprawl in what is very rural country side.
Folks who live in a rural environment normally do so by choice.
I remember when Bradwell power station was being built, the gravel lorry traffic was evident as far away as Chelmsford. The villages of Bradwell and Tillingham were no go areas for the local children walking or cycling. It will mean total disruption for all living in the corridor from the A12.
When what is now called Bradwell A was built I am sure the thought of a Bradwell B would have made A a non starter.
What you mean is urban sprawl in what is very rural country side.
Folks who live in a rural environment normally do so by choice.
I remember when Bradwell power station was being built, the gravel lorry traffic was evident as far away as Chelmsford. The villages of Bradwell and Tillingham were no go areas for the local children walking or cycling. It will mean total disruption for all living in the corridor from the A12.
When what is now called Bradwell A was built I am sure the thought of a Bradwell B would have made A a non starter.
Marmalade
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As someone who doesn't live on the Dengie - but who has sailed there for the last 50 years - I have never known there not to be a power station there. The thought of that volume of HGV traffic though could change the very rural nature of the whole area. But it's not a wealthy area - so jobs would be welcome - but if it brings in 5-6 thousand new poeple - where will they live? The infrastructure for the people is also a significant project in its own right - shops, schools, amenities etc. Isn't much of the river a site of special scientific interest (because of wading birds)?
Hadenough
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You really do live in a self possessed bubble don’t you.
