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If you're still looking 3 cabin but want something a bit beamier than the T48, have a look at the V52. A lot more boat for a few quid more
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Name that Organ
The Full keyboard Tonewheel Hammonds were the C3, RT3, A100, B3. They also did reduced keyboard models M100 and L100. This smaller "spinnet" model was also split and sold in a white paint finish known as the M102. The larger full keyboard models were also occasionally split to assist in transporting although the B3 was a top half on legs and remains the most desirable of the Hammonds. Hammond also produced a model called the X5 (where perhaps the C5 error is creeping into other posts) which was an organ supposidly designed for bands on the road but never really cought on in a big way although the sound was quite good. Hammond stopped doing the tonewheel thing with valves and started making a range of organs with transistorised circuits, ditching the mechanical tonewheel generator. Big mistake, these transistor organs are faily common and practically worthless.
The Sound of the Hammond is greatly enhanced by using a Leslie speaker. This is a speaker cabinet which looks like a large Oak or Mahogany box (some Cherry wood were also made, and contains two speakers, one a large bass speaker in the bottom of the cabinet points down and the sound escapes through a rotating drum and the other speaker points upwards and escapes through a set of rotating horns. The organist can select slow or fast rotation and the effect is staggering.
If the organ you have Adrian is a B3 then it is worth a few bob and I would love to buy it if you cared to part with it. If it is a C3 then its worth around £1200 with Leslie. A100's and RT3's are not quite so desirable asthe A100 has speakers in the body of the organ (so its very heavy) and the RT3 is wider and again heavier.
M100 and L100 are only worth around £100 and Transistorised versions J125, T500 etc etc etc are not worth a bean.
Cheers all, Not boating is it but then I don't have a boat!
CJ
chris@stone.uk.com
www.stone.uk.com
The Full keyboard Tonewheel Hammonds were the C3, RT3, A100, B3. They also did reduced keyboard models M100 and L100. This smaller "spinnet" model was also split and sold in a white paint finish known as the M102. The larger full keyboard models were also occasionally split to assist in transporting although the B3 was a top half on legs and remains the most desirable of the Hammonds. Hammond also produced a model called the X5 (where perhaps the C5 error is creeping into other posts) which was an organ supposidly designed for bands on the road but never really cought on in a big way although the sound was quite good. Hammond stopped doing the tonewheel thing with valves and started making a range of organs with transistorised circuits, ditching the mechanical tonewheel generator. Big mistake, these transistor organs are faily common and practically worthless.
The Sound of the Hammond is greatly enhanced by using a Leslie speaker. This is a speaker cabinet which looks like a large Oak or Mahogany box (some Cherry wood were also made, and contains two speakers, one a large bass speaker in the bottom of the cabinet points down and the sound escapes through a rotating drum and the other speaker points upwards and escapes through a set of rotating horns. The organist can select slow or fast rotation and the effect is staggering.
If the organ you have Adrian is a B3 then it is worth a few bob and I would love to buy it if you cared to part with it. If it is a C3 then its worth around £1200 with Leslie. A100's and RT3's are not quite so desirable asthe A100 has speakers in the body of the organ (so its very heavy) and the RT3 is wider and again heavier.
M100 and L100 are only worth around £100 and Transistorised versions J125, T500 etc etc etc are not worth a bean.
Cheers all, Not boating is it but then I don't have a boat!
CJ
chris@stone.uk.com
www.stone.uk.com
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Re: Name that Organ
Yer it was a C3 I must have been thinking about my old car when I said C5
"The Med has got me" (no not the Medway the other Med)
Yer it was a C3 I must have been thinking about my old car when I said C5
"The Med has got me" (no not the Medway the other Med)
c_j
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Been considering V52's but I prefer the T48. Mind you with the 800 hp set up It goes over 40 knots. Suprising how the T48 only produces another 2 knots (35) with the 74p's bearing in mind its another 100 HP over the 74L or Cats.
How is your search going on?
CJ
chris@stone.uk.com
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How is your search going on?
CJ
chris@stone.uk.com
www.stone.uk.com
hlb
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Re: Name that Organ
I've got an organ. It's a Yamaha. Was thinking of installing it in Muckyfarter so I could do that Captain Nemo bit in 2,000 Leages under the sea.
<font color=blue>Haydn
I've got an organ. It's a Yamaha. Was thinking of installing it in Muckyfarter so I could do that Captain Nemo bit in 2,000 Leages under the sea.
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My search is rather drifting aimlessly at the moment. This sounds terrible considering the budget we've got but I just cant get all that excited about any of the boats we've looked at including the T48. SWMBO thinks we should be buying a flybridge boat so thats complicating the situation. Might just wait for LBS and see if any juicy p/exs come up. What about you?
tcm
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Re: ex-t48 bore
i had a t48. Had it in the uk for a while, though (like most boats i suppose) more fun in the med. The extra 2 knots for bigger engines is due to the fact that the 33/34 knots was a big lie, whereas the 35 is less of a lie.
In the UK, t48 is a load of zipping and unzipping things. Yes, flybridge or command bridge better if uk-only boating is planned
Agree v52 is more money, and possibly seems a tougher design. For med, v52 has too-small swim platform, irelevant in uk. Inside, weird cornish types have designed high-gloss worksurfaces and galley, great for buying a pastie and not cooking anything at all. Fairly bland interior, not very special-feeling ,that fairline seems better at....
i had a t48. Had it in the uk for a while, though (like most boats i suppose) more fun in the med. The extra 2 knots for bigger engines is due to the fact that the 33/34 knots was a big lie, whereas the 35 is less of a lie.
In the UK, t48 is a load of zipping and unzipping things. Yes, flybridge or command bridge better if uk-only boating is planned
Agree v52 is more money, and possibly seems a tougher design. For med, v52 has too-small swim platform, irelevant in uk. Inside, weird cornish types have designed high-gloss worksurfaces and galley, great for buying a pastie and not cooking anything at all. Fairly bland interior, not very special-feeling ,that fairline seems better at....
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Re: ex-t48 bore
Whats your opinion on bathing platforms in the Med, tcm? Is it better to have a large platform with dinghy stored on it or a smaller one with dinghy in davits?
Whats your opinion on bathing platforms in the Med, tcm? Is it better to have a large platform with dinghy stored on it or a smaller one with dinghy in davits?
tcm
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Re: ex-t48 bore
<Whats your opinion on bathing platforms in the Med, tcm? Is it better to have a large platform with dinghy stored on it or a smaller one with dinghy in davits?>
this is a few questions in one!
conditions (in no partic order)
1 At sea , you need to be able to stop the boat and fish things out from the stern and have a quick swim without the dinghy being in the way.
2. In harbour, you need to be able to get on and off, without the dinghy in the way
3 In harbour, you need to be able to attach crossed lines, without the dinghy being in the way.
4. You need to be able to get the dinghy in/out reaonably reasily and reliably.
5. in harbour, with dinghy on, the back of the boat must not look like a pile of crap, cos you see it all the time with stern mooring.
So your options are best of a bad job: either on davits or on the stern, whichecver is easiest. Saw jfm's use thepassarelle to hoick onto swimplatform. BUT they wd have to launch the dinghy before larking about AND not much larking cos the chocks are still there. But more positive location (i think) with chocks, it seemed to me. Probably limited size of boat/engine if on davits, or for given boat, more limited than on chocks. But the crossed lines are often needed imho, and chocks can bog this up.
However, both options violate a few of the rules above. A flybridge mounted dinghy might be okay, never tried it tho. The leopard, v52 and t48 don't violate any of the rules, as far as I can see. Best is the targa 48 as the second option (when the lectric fail) is to haul manually, not possioble with bigger jetboats.
Best imho is the pershing, or larger sailyboats, with dinghy coming out of the foredeck. Or stay at anchor and get the dinghy out for a while...
<Whats your opinion on bathing platforms in the Med, tcm? Is it better to have a large platform with dinghy stored on it or a smaller one with dinghy in davits?>
this is a few questions in one!
conditions (in no partic order)
1 At sea , you need to be able to stop the boat and fish things out from the stern and have a quick swim without the dinghy being in the way.
2. In harbour, you need to be able to get on and off, without the dinghy in the way
3 In harbour, you need to be able to attach crossed lines, without the dinghy being in the way.
4. You need to be able to get the dinghy in/out reaonably reasily and reliably.
5. in harbour, with dinghy on, the back of the boat must not look like a pile of crap, cos you see it all the time with stern mooring.
So your options are best of a bad job: either on davits or on the stern, whichecver is easiest. Saw jfm's use thepassarelle to hoick onto swimplatform. BUT they wd have to launch the dinghy before larking about AND not much larking cos the chocks are still there. But more positive location (i think) with chocks, it seemed to me. Probably limited size of boat/engine if on davits, or for given boat, more limited than on chocks. But the crossed lines are often needed imho, and chocks can bog this up.
However, both options violate a few of the rules above. A flybridge mounted dinghy might be okay, never tried it tho. The leopard, v52 and t48 don't violate any of the rules, as far as I can see. Best is the targa 48 as the second option (when the lectric fail) is to haul manually, not possioble with bigger jetboats.
Best imho is the pershing, or larger sailyboats, with dinghy coming out of the foredeck. Or stay at anchor and get the dinghy out for a while...
adrianbarker
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Nice one Chris, I know of a lovely Princess 50 currently on the market - pm for more info.
ps How did you sell her, brokerage or ........?
You didn't have that one the last time we saw you !
ps How did you sell her, brokerage or ........?
You didn't have that one the last time we saw you !
c_j
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Sold privately to first one who looked but had several calls from MBY classified ad.
Sorry Adrian, not old enough for a flybridge yet
CJ
chris@stone.uk.com
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Sorry Adrian, not old enough for a flybridge yet
CJ
chris@stone.uk.com
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c_j
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Mike,
Looking at 3 t48's in Majorca mid November.
I think TCM's comment on V52 concur with my feelings, and I just don't go along with the UK = Flybridge theory. We use and enjoy our sports boat.
Smallest 4 cabin 6 berth sports boat = T48
I have a budget in mind but I want a 2000 or later boat and it seems that although there are a few around for sale the owners are in no hurry to sell.
Princess with whom I still have a few contacts reckon that the LBS will provide some boats so I will probably wait til then as well.
CJ
chris@stone.uk.com
www.stone.uk.com
Looking at 3 t48's in Majorca mid November.
I think TCM's comment on V52 concur with my feelings, and I just don't go along with the UK = Flybridge theory. We use and enjoy our sports boat.
Smallest 4 cabin 6 berth sports boat = T48
I have a budget in mind but I want a 2000 or later boat and it seems that although there are a few around for sale the owners are in no hurry to sell.
Princess with whom I still have a few contacts reckon that the LBS will provide some boats so I will probably wait til then as well.
CJ
chris@stone.uk.com
www.stone.uk.com
tcm
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Geting a cheap t48
imho. the best way to do this would be to actually leaflet the boats themselves. Cheeky, but effective i bet.
Do tellus more bout the boats you are thinking of, so we can poke our nose in.
T48 is much nicer looking boat imho.
Main q (i'm told) on t48 is "how much water has been in the engine room?".
imho. the best way to do this would be to actually leaflet the boats themselves. Cheeky, but effective i bet.
Do tellus more bout the boats you are thinking of, so we can poke our nose in.
T48 is much nicer looking boat imho.
Main q (i'm told) on t48 is "how much water has been in the engine room?".
Canboria
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Re: Boatless CJ
Stone Me has been playing today in Chatham, in and out of its pontoon, looks like the new owner and wife are having lessons, as usual the wife is doing all the easy bits like jumping off the boat with the lines between her teeth.
Derek
Stone Me has been playing today in Chatham, in and out of its pontoon, looks like the new owner and wife are having lessons, as usual the wife is doing all the easy bits like jumping off the boat with the lines between her teeth.
Derek
jfm
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Re: chocks v davits
Yes, need to launch dinghy to lark about, but it's very quick to launch, quicker than garage set ups. With dinghy in water, chocks can be removed easily, ....and erm stowed somewhere that fits big things.
Big prob with chocks is possible inability to have crossed lines in stern-to mooring set ups. We simply cant do it on ours, as the crossed lines would snag on the dinghy. This worries me in strong winds, we need to sort out some way of having these mooring lines, but haven't figured a way to do it yet......
Yes, need to launch dinghy to lark about, but it's very quick to launch, quicker than garage set ups. With dinghy in water, chocks can be removed easily, ....and erm stowed somewhere that fits big things.
Big prob with chocks is possible inability to have crossed lines in stern-to mooring set ups. We simply cant do it on ours, as the crossed lines would snag on the dinghy. This worries me in strong winds, we need to sort out some way of having these mooring lines, but haven't figured a way to do it yet......
coliholic
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Re: chocks v davits
No way to get dinghy up on top on the flybridge? Maybe using some form of crane type contraption adapted to fit the pasarelle? Or maybe a proper crane on the flybridge and lift it up out of the way?
That way you could get your crossed lines on. Or maybe just lift it up a bit and slide sideways out of the way? Or just drop it in the water, though presumably then you get barnacles growing on the dinghy I suppose,
I'm sure between us all here we could come up with a suitable (patent pending) design.
No way to get dinghy up on top on the flybridge? Maybe using some form of crane type contraption adapted to fit the pasarelle? Or maybe a proper crane on the flybridge and lift it up out of the way?
That way you could get your crossed lines on. Or maybe just lift it up a bit and slide sideways out of the way? Or just drop it in the water, though presumably then you get barnacles growing on the dinghy I suppose,
I'm sure between us all here we could come up with a suitable (patent pending) design.
tcm
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Re: crossed lines
rear pop-up cleats, mounted well back on the swim platform can do this. I have these, quite good.
But nonetheless, still can loo ka mess with dinghy etc etc on the swim platform. Each little swim stop stop requires bogging around with dinghy, and yer need a biggish flybridge to start plonking cranes and dinghies up there.
t48 quite quick to launch/retrieve dinghy, praps as quick as jfm's chocks, or nearly. Pus loads prettier arse end. Why the hell am i talking to coliholic about this?
rear pop-up cleats, mounted well back on the swim platform can do this. I have these, quite good.
But nonetheless, still can loo ka mess with dinghy etc etc on the swim platform. Each little swim stop stop requires bogging around with dinghy, and yer need a biggish flybridge to start plonking cranes and dinghies up there.
t48 quite quick to launch/retrieve dinghy, praps as quick as jfm's chocks, or nearly. Pus loads prettier arse end. Why the hell am i talking to coliholic about this?
coliholic
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Re: crossed lines
So why you not want to talk to me then? Did I upset you as well as B1 by not falling in? Anyway why you answering my Q to jfm?
So how big is the flybridge on jfm's Phantom? As I remeber it, I'm sure it's big enough for the dinghy up there. Or maybe it'd look a bit naff?
So why you not want to talk to me then? Did I upset you as well as B1 by not falling in? Anyway why you answering my Q to jfm?
So how big is the flybridge on jfm's Phantom? As I remeber it, I'm sure it's big enough for the dinghy up there. Or maybe it'd look a bit naff?
tcm
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Re: crossed lines
I got all cross lines to my brain whilst typing summink bout "good-looking arse ends". Then typed the next thing that came into my head. Then before, i could stop, i pressed the continue button, my mind swirling in a confusion of metaphors.
ahem, anyway, sorry bout that.
(time since last cigarette: quite some weeks)
I got all cross lines to my brain whilst typing summink bout "good-looking arse ends". Then typed the next thing that came into my head. Then before, i could stop, i pressed the continue button, my mind swirling in a confusion of metaphors.
ahem, anyway, sorry bout that.
(time since last cigarette: quite some weeks)