boat use without a vhf license?

I've got a DSC radio but only have the non DSC operating license, I'm reluctant to shell out loads of beer vouchers to sit in a room for 10 hrs to be told things that can be found out by perusing the instruction manual for the radio, I think this probably makes me a bad person.
 
... I'm reluctant to shell out loads of beer vouchers to sit in a room for 10 hrs to be told things that can be found out by perusing the instruction manual for the radio, I think this probably makes me a bad person.

I also am a bad person. Why on earth give your money away...
If you know how to operate it you are qualified. A piece of paper is only a piece of paper.
 
As I said before, not worth it unless going abroad. Has anyone ever been asked for their personal license?

I suspect the only time you might land in the brown stuff for not having a licence would be if you blocked an emergency or official transmission by yammering on about something. It's £5k fine apparently, for transmitting without an operators licence, but I am guessing this is reserved for serious abuses as tracking a transmission across the sea, then proving the vessel it came from wouldn't be trivial.

That said, it's a cheap licence to get and the knowledge required to complete the exam isn't extensive but would help keep busy areas more quiet if more people had it, so I'm all for it (and I have one!)

As far as I understand, anyone who has an "old" VHF licence doesn't need to update it to use DSC.
 
The only prosecution I have ever heard of taking place, was for improper use - Trawlermen communicating with family on shore regarding being "home for tea at xxx time" - apparently it was ongoing over time and led to the authorities taking action and levelling a fine. Not actually heard of anyone being prosecuted for not holding operator's certificate or licence.
 
symondo; said:
I can sit the exam and also do the course in oban -(40 miles south) opposed to glasgow. BUT i can either sit the exam after doing the work myself or sit thier 1 day course/exam which i have been advised is a 6 week wait and £180.

Currently I have books on VHF/GMDSS and DSC fro the RYA and also mock exam papers.

The online course is very good. I'd do that but apply to do the exam in Oban. Whereabouts do you live? I used to live in Benderloch.
 
I've got a DSC radio but only have the non DSC operating license, I'm reluctant to shell out loads of beer vouchers to sit in a room for 10 hrs to be told things that can be found out by perusing the instruction manual for the radio, I think this probably makes me a bad person.
10hrs for the course is ridiculous.
 
10hrs for the course is ridiculous.

Blame the Germans. It used to be more like five (at least, I remember a short day, a long lunchbreak, and a fair bit of time for the exam) but a number of Germans whose English was up to it were apparently coming over here to get their tickets instead of doing the much more rigorous German course. Their home organisation complained that our regime was too easy, and in response it got changed last winter.

Pete
 
Blame the Germans. It used to be more like five (at least, I remember a short day, a long lunchbreak, and a fair bit of time for the exam) but a number of Germans whose English was up to it were apparently coming over here to get their tickets instead of doing the much more rigorous German course. Their home organisation complained that our regime was too easy, and in response it got changed last winter.

Pete

Doesn't that seem entirely bum-about-face to you? Surely the sensible option would be to impose restrictions via the german issuing authority to enforce an add-on course for nationals taking their licence overseas!
 
Doesn't that seem entirely bum-about-face to you? Surely the sensible option would be to impose restrictions via the german issuing authority to enforce an add-on course for nationals taking their licence overseas!

I think the international rules require the licenses to be interchangeable/equally valid. The French might do what you propose, but I'd expect the Germans to follow the rules :)

Pete
 
>I've got idiot-proof instructions on how to make a distress call mounted above the radio, I assume that in an emergency that anyone could legally use it?

We also had that that and yes it can be used by anyone if the licence holder is incapacitated. On our course in 2003 I thought we were taught that any one can use the radio under the supervision of a licence holder, is that right?
 
We also had that that and yes it can be used by anyone if the licence holder is incapacitated.

The license holder doesn't have to be incapacitated - a radio can be used by anyone to summon help "in the event of an emergency where there is a risk to life".

On our course in 2003 I thought we were taught that any one can use the radio under the supervision of a licence holder, is that right?

Yes:

10 The Licensee must ensure that the radio equipment is used only by persons:
(a) who have been authorised by the Licensee to do so and who have been made aware
of, and comply with, the terms of the Licence; and
(b) who hold, or are under the direct personal supervision of a person who holds a
relevant Maritime Radio Operator’s Certificate of Competence and valid Authority to
Operate.

Pete
 
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