Whitelighter
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I like the T50 - though might I suggest the T52 is a better boat.
Three full cabins, no bunks and a double crew (dies the T50 have any crew?). Of course you lose the mid full beam owners - dunno if that is important
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I like the T50 - though might I suggest the T52 is a better boat.
Three full cabins, no bunks and a double crew (dies the T50 have any crew?). Of course you lose the mid full beam owners - dunno if that is important
pan
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From the spec and price you have suggested, the SS manhattan 50 is your best choice, we have had a 2007 for 4 years, it's been a fabulous boat, exhausts noise is not a problem, most either have a crew cabin (later models) or a lazarette that can be converted. Come with all the mod cons, aircon, decent genny etc etc. When we looked around, frankly we couldn't find a better boat for us, in terms of accomodation, performance, build quality & spec.
Good ones are getting a bit thin on the ground now and prices are firming, there are a couple for sale in Mallorca, worth giving them a look over, and a better choice SOF.
I am over in Portals from the 4th July, if you want want to have a look around give me a PM (not for sale though)
(Ignore the idiots who think they have the right to comment on your personal circumstances!)
Good ones are getting a bit thin on the ground now and prices are firming, there are a couple for sale in Mallorca, worth giving them a look over, and a better choice SOF.
I am over in Portals from the 4th July, if you want want to have a look around give me a PM (not for sale though)
(Ignore the idiots who think they have the right to comment on your personal circumstances!)
jrudge
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I do like the Manhattan 50. It is a nice compromise of mid cabin and evidence of real design like the lower helm and the stair rail to the kitchen area ( which for some odd reason caught my eye !)
Prices have firmed which is a surprise to put it mildly.
All I need to do is find one ! I know someone at sunseeker who I contacted today who has one coming in but he failed to mention the price !
I may well pop over and say hi. Arrive on the 6 th.
Prices have firmed which is a surprise to put it mildly.
All I need to do is find one ! I know someone at sunseeker who I contacted today who has one coming in but he failed to mention the price !
I may well pop over and say hi. Arrive on the 6 th.
pan
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My advice is go for the latest model you can 2006/7, watch out for fading of the blue hull gelcoat, there will be some with internal lacquer fading, but that can be sorted, some of the early models suffered from light gelcoat only cracking on forward flybridge pillars, aircon units are independant so can be replaced individually. Asking prices seem to be £300-£400k vat paid, so real world £250-£350k, careful with some of the Italian boats, there were some very complex finance deals done on new boats and we never managed to unravel any of them, and the dealers were evasive to say the least!
New listing in the SOF... http://www.theyachtmarket.com/boats_for_sale/1307981/
New listing in the SOF... http://www.theyachtmarket.com/boats_for_sale/1307981/
jrudge
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The Sealine T50 looks interesting.
Mid cabin etc and well priced.
I am in Goodwood at the Festival of Speed tomorrow - does anyone on here have a T50 on the south coast by any chance I could look at?
Mid cabin etc and well priced.
I am in Goodwood at the Festival of Speed tomorrow - does anyone on here have a T50 on the south coast by any chance I could look at?
Portofino
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This ticks a lot your boxes -just tinternet one at right price -loads about .
Pitty you can,t liquidise the Sq 65 into Euro,s for your own use ?
http://en.yacht4web.com/Azimut-Yachts/47/54415/brochure?k=adv&ph=973762-14.jpg
Pitty you can,t liquidise the Sq 65 into Euro,s for your own use ?
http://en.yacht4web.com/Azimut-Yachts/47/54415/brochure?k=adv&ph=973762-14.jpg
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How about a Ferretti 530? 3 sleeping cabins plus the crew cabin is off the galley so effectively its a 4th cabin inside the boat.
http://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2006/Ferretti-Yachts-530-2818957/Monaco#.V22EB5MrLsk
Should be able to get a good one for your budget. I had the previous model 53 which was almost the same and we loved it. Excellent sea boat, Cat engines, capable of 32kts and usual Ferretti quality
http://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2006/Ferretti-Yachts-530-2818957/Monaco#.V22EB5MrLsk
Should be able to get a good one for your budget. I had the previous model 53 which was almost the same and we loved it. Excellent sea boat, Cat engines, capable of 32kts and usual Ferretti quality
CMJ
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Azimut 50 ticks all your boxes I think - just slightly more modern than the 55 (particularly inside). We've had our 3 cabin variant for almost 10 years now and it's been great.
Whitelighter
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Was going to suggest the 50 but couldn't find if they did a three cabin version.
Good suggestion
MapisM
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+1.
Generally speaking, I cant't think of a boat that suits better all your expectations than the AZ50.
And a couple of months ago, I could have also suggested the one to buy beyond any doubt (built in 2008, but all you should have done to call her a brand new boat was to change the HIN plate - she was that perfect), but on top of being as good as new, the asking price was attractive, so unsurprisingly she's now sold.
Anyway, in this respect, I can definitely second CMJ suggestion.
On a slightly different note, I'm curious to ask you one thing.
I understand that the Ferretti you've seen in Palma doesn't tick all your boxes - mostly because she's older and a bit bigger, but are there other reasons why you would NOT consider her?
Btw, I did not go to check her out yet for a couple of compelling reasons (I'll tell you more by email), but many thanks again anyhow! :encouragement:
PS: oh, and talking of boats that don't actually tick all your boxes, since you also mentioned the sport boats and the Targa, check this out.
Again, older than you would like, and more than a bit bigger, BUT.....!!!
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Portofino
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What does a AZ 50 bring to the party that a AZ47 does not ?
Apart from fuelling C12 vs C9 ,greater birthing, lift out /in , and other general running costs >
Ok bit more space for 3weeks or so when kids decend .
Very left of field ( cos ,iam biased -ok
) ---older than initially speced Itama 46/ 54 -well engineered + simple maintenance going forwards
46 has 6 beds in 3 cabins and if you are in the Med and want a bit of a thrill -Arneson variants top out 46 knots with MAN
800's
All have huge cockpits / bathing platforms / social space -outdoor living +++
+ with 23 o deadrise -I,ll leave it up you to figure out the ride /seakeeping .
Apart from fuelling C12 vs C9 ,greater birthing, lift out /in , and other general running costs >
Ok bit more space for 3weeks or so when kids decend .
Very left of field ( cos ,iam biased -ok
) ---older than initially speced Itama 46/ 54 -well engineered + simple maintenance going forwards 46 has 6 beds in 3 cabins and if you are in the Med and want a bit of a thrill -Arneson variants top out 46 knots with MAN
800's
All have huge cockpits / bathing platforms / social space -outdoor living +++
+ with 23 o deadrise -I,ll leave it up you to figure out the ride /seakeeping .
CMJ
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A fair point - and I prefer the more modern interior look of the 47, but the 47 does feel smaller inside and a little crammed - also quite a bit of exposed GRP IIRC inside unlike the 50 which still (to me) has a look of luxury.
The F/B on the 50 is great with the central radar arch adding to the feeling of being safe and secure up there. Exterior styling is a matter of taste obviously - I think the 50 has faired pretty well over the years and ours still attracts many onlookers from the quayside.
I'd keep the AZ50 any day over the Sealine T50 although the Sealine does feel bigger inside.
Portofino
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Kinda surrounded by em AZ 47/50's. Look like perfect FB Med boat -popular for a reason ,sound nice too when they go by .
one there
Some more
Two 47's
one there
Some more
Two 47's
PowerYachtBlog
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Azimut 50 vs 47 is interesting.
47 scores point below, and I think the galley on the 47 also works better. Cockpit in the 47/48 is not much smaller then the 50 too.
What the 50 has larger is the saloon, and the fore deck I guess.
The flybridge although the 50s is again a bit bigger I think the 47 seating area works better. Large C-shape settee resting with the radar arch.
Azimut 50 has a phenomenal ride as well in rough sea with many saying she is also a better sea boat then an Azimut 55. Information coming from delivery captains btw.
If you stay with known brands I think the Azimut 50 only gets a challenge from a Fairline 50 Phantom.
Which is IMO a better boat overall then the Azimut with the exception that years take toll a bit on the overall design of the 50 Phantom.
Still a classic in my book although I know that some Fairline 50 Ph are selling very competitive at the moment.
The Sealine T50 is a boat I do not recommend to many people since I had a client who bought her after I sold him his Azimut 39, and said the small 39 was a better sea boat and at anchor rest.
So his answer was if he could stuff the midships cabin and the sea keeping of the 39 in one boat, he would change the Sealine.
Result he took a hit on the Sealine he sold and bought an Azimut 58 two years later.
47 scores point below, and I think the galley on the 47 also works better. Cockpit in the 47/48 is not much smaller then the 50 too.
What the 50 has larger is the saloon, and the fore deck I guess.
The flybridge although the 50s is again a bit bigger I think the 47 seating area works better. Large C-shape settee resting with the radar arch.
Azimut 50 has a phenomenal ride as well in rough sea with many saying she is also a better sea boat then an Azimut 55. Information coming from delivery captains btw.
If you stay with known brands I think the Azimut 50 only gets a challenge from a Fairline 50 Phantom.
Which is IMO a better boat overall then the Azimut with the exception that years take toll a bit on the overall design of the 50 Phantom.
Still a classic in my book although I know that some Fairline 50 Ph are selling very competitive at the moment.
The Sealine T50 is a boat I do not recommend to many people since I had a client who bought her after I sold him his Azimut 39, and said the small 39 was a better sea boat and at anchor rest.
So his answer was if he could stuff the midships cabin and the sea keeping of the 39 in one boat, he would change the Sealine.
Result he took a hit on the Sealine he sold and bought an Azimut 58 two years later.
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