Boat purchaser has completely disappeared.

[jwilson]

I am sending you a PM regarding this matter: it concerns payment methods should you decide to return part or any of the deposit.

 

[hartcjhart]

send him an email giving 14 days to contact you or you will assume he is no longer going to proceed with the purchase and that he will forfeit his deposit and MAY face legal action to recover the difference between deposit and full price

 

[Paddingtonbear]

send him an email giving 14 days to contact you or you will assume he is no longer going to proceed with the purchase and that he will forfeit his deposit and MAY face legal action to recover the difference between deposit and full price

I would dearly love to.

 

[Paddingtonbear]

I have no doubt that he is all above board and totally honest BUT the lack of communication is causing me a lot of grief. I have even offered to be paid by stage payments £10000 now and the rest by Easter 2014 but to no avail.

 

[maby]

I have no doubt that he is all above board and totally honest BUT the lack of communication is causing me a lot of grief. I have even offered to be paid by stage payments £10000 now and the rest by Easter 2014 but to no avail.

That sounds very dodgy to me given his behaviour to date! Presumably you would hold onto the boat till the full price was paid?

 

[Paddingtonbear]

Naive it might be but mad I am not........................................well I do own a wooden boat

 

[CreakyDecks]

If the deposit was paid by cheque be very wary. Clearing cheques fully can take six months, long after you see the money in your account, and if there is anything wrong then the bank will take the money back out of your account. If the "buyer" asks for repayment by some other method (that he knows to be irreversible, like a wire transfer) then alarm bells should ring VERY loudly.

 

[maby]

If the deposit was paid by cheque be very wary. Clearing cheques fully can take six months, long after you see the money in your account, and if there is anything wrong then the bank will take the money back out of your account. If the "buyer" asks for repayment by some other method (that he knows to be irreversible, like a wire transfer) then alarm bells should ring VERY loudly.

Indeed - there have been a couple of high profile scams running based around this...

 

[Skipper_Christoph]

Try searching him in Xing.com
Headhunters are very often in this business network

Good luck
Christoph

At least i found someone with this name in Switzerland but only the city and web address of the company is stated.

 

[BrianH]

Try searching him in Xing.com
Headhunters are very often in this business network

See messages #12 & #13.

 

[hartcjhart]

I would dearly love to but I don't have a personal email and if I just send it to RSA he could easily say he did not get it. I have already sent a similar email to a personal address that I have but perhaps he does not get these in Switzerland.

If the email addy is that he gave you is the RSA one then it matters not one jot him saying he did not receive it,AS LONG as you can prove you sent the email then you are ok, as you say switzerland is not another planet

 

[Paddingtonbear]

?

 

[BrianH]

I would suggest that he may have had second thoughts about the boat or some change to his financial situation such that he is prepared to cut his losses and sacrifice the deposit.

 

[WestWittering]

If you have the company name, then ring them up & ask to speak to him!

Sold a Bose system for £700 Buy it Now, to a guy who wanted it delivered to a business address. Thought it might be iffy, so I rang the company, asked for him, got put through (he worked in their warehouse), confirmed details - job done.

Di

 

[hartcjhart]

The email address that I have been using is not the RSA one but a gmail account that he gave me. I am somewhat loath to use the RSA one as he might find it terminally intrusive and therefore totally piss him off. Can it be that he lives totally separate lives, one in Switzerland and one in GB? I know that he is responsible for elderly relatives in the UK and has a tenant of his current boat in London so he can't just cut himself off. So what is the consensus? give it one last shot and email RSA or forget him and put the boat on the 'Duck' as I said to him 2 emails ago.

send him the email there, if no reply in 14 days keep the deposit and re-advertise the boat,bye the way email him on the gmail addy as well, the gmail people 'read/scan' every email sent so there would be back up proof about sending it

 

[alant]

It is a private sale with very little in the way of paper work, not even a survey of any kind although he has seen it out of the water and knows about boats as he already has one moored in London which he lives on when he comes back. I just wish I could get a direct email so that I can keep a record to prove that i have made every effort to contact him and ask for the balance outstanding which is £28500. By Sunday I will be able to keep his deposit and will then put the boat up for sale again although it has caused me a lot of grief as well as those good folks who are supporting me with my battles over Singapore II. I would not have sold the boat had I not need the money quickly to pay for my war of attrition. Thank you all for you efforts.

An obvious place to start looking for contact IMO.
He must be paying someone for the mooring, so they would have a contact address for any invoices.
Failing that, can't you send a letter via his bank?

 

[Spi D]

If sending emails you can always use the system request for receipt (for delivery and read).

While receipt for read is on recepients decision, reception by mail server is automatic. Due to the way eamil systems work, delivery is considered to be successful if no rejection message is received back.
Wether the recepient actually check/read mail you never know, but that goes for snail mail letters as well.

The buyer might have decided not to go on with the purchase and to accept loss of deposit. If (very) embarassed he simply wait for things to go over (ie. you take the money and he gets off the hook).

 

[[3889]]

The OP has confirmed that is his man in a subsequent posting that he later edited to remove some defamatory comments he included about him.

Surely you mean "possibly defamatory". Best edit this post - you don't want to be sued for defamation

 

[Paddingtonbear]

Panic over I hope, SWMBO has sent a "good cop" email and has got a reply almost immediately. He claims that he has not had an email since 24/08 so perhaps they were going into his spam folder and being immediately deleted which in some ways might be just as well I have handed it all over to SWMBO as it is really her boat, so that she can have yet more success and be presented with a big bag of cash asap. Thank you all so much for your help and support. One last thing do you think it wise to take down the thread? I have removed most of my content but you never know he just might decide to look on here.

 

[BrianH]

One last thing do you think it wise to take down the thread? I have removed most of my content but you never know he just might decide to look on here.

That's good news, I'm pleased for you. Yes, it could be wise to delete what you can ... not sure thread removal is possible without administrator intervention and it will always be archived to be dredged up with Google. I'll delete my links immediately if it helps.