Boat off mooring - salvage claim... Again?! Arrr!

Yo, Fatbeard !

I've got to admit that you have got style, and it's your own style, not out of the conventional magazine platitudes.

Where do you go from here in terms of your sailing ? When you resolve all the loose ends of the salvage boat, what are your plans ?
 
After saving the world, again, you mean? (jk)

Ummm... I'm what we refer to as a 'pug'... a player that runs the game solo, or with a team he builds himself. My plans? Rest of the summer exploring XXXXXXX.

After that .... (myboat) needs luv. As does everyone else.

: )
 
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As you will have realised, I love stories.
If you enjoyed this one, then you've made my day!

The little tale you linked is pretty beautiful and tastes of its time. +1.
 
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There is a story about my late Godfather, Capt CB Alers Hankey RN (whose nickname was hurricane Hank) which I've always had my doubts about. Thanks to Fatbeard, I'm more prepared to believe that it may be founded in fact.....

From "The Queenslander" 28 February 1935

"The new sloop, H.M.S. Wellington, which sailed this week for a three-year commission with the New Zealand Navy, has as her first lieutenant an officer who distinguished himself by a remarkable swimming feat in storm-lashed seas some years ago.
He is Lieutenant C.B.Alers Hankey, who earned the nickname “Hurricane Hank” when he was a sub-lieutenant in the cruiser Capetown.
During a hurricane the Capetown was secured in comparative safety alongside the dockyard wall in Bermuda. The Flagship of the North America and West Indies squadron, H.M.S. Calcutta, was also secured alongside by a great number of wire hawsers, but in a less sheltered part of the basin.
When the hurricane was at its height these hawsers parted one by one, and the flagship was seen to be sweeping down on to the breakwater to leeward.
Sub-Lieutenant Hankey, the officer of the watch, told the bugler to sound “clear lower deck everybody aft”, and then dived overboard with a grassline. Tying one end of it round his waist he swam in the terrific seas to the drifting flagship.
Meanwhile Lieutenant W.S Roskill, of the sloop Wistaria, also swam with a line to the Calcutta. The two young officers were instrumental in saving the Flagship.”"
 
@Frogmogman ... a humbling tale.

@the owners of (salvagetarget)....
I really HOPE you have come and collected your boat. If not ... someone else has! Of course, It would have been nice to be phoned first, just to save me the worry and expense of checking. And, oh, any chance I can have my equipment back?

Fatbeard the Pirate.
 
By text...

me: Arrr! XXXXX is missing. Owners snaffled her. What's happening tonight?
him: GARRrRRRrR! Time for a jolly rodgering!!!!
me: "...merely sit by the stream and wait for your enemies bodies to float by..." Sun Tzu.
him: LMAO! now youre talking!
me: They have saved us from looking after her and are now liable for her storage. We need to find her and chain her up!
me: Already checked XXXXX this morning... Nothing.
 
Arrr! Update.

The owners sort of came forward, one of them anyway, with a perfectly nonchalant text message ... all surprised and Best Wishes.

Their insurers, I am told are certain this is not salvage. That may be their opinion. Invoices have been issued vs. the owners in 4 figures. If it gets to 5 figures, legal expenses are considered too. Here's hoping!

In the meantime, my rights in this mess have been signed over to a third party known for their ruthlessness in these matters, so I am effectively clear of the situation as of now... and a little better off ... and a little wiser.

FB.
 
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Fatbeard said:
Arrr! Update.

The owners sort of came forward, one of them anyway, with a perfectly nonchalant text message ... all surprised and Best Wishes.

Their insurers, I am told are certain this is not salvage. That may be their opinion. Invoices have been issued vs. the owners in 4 figures. If it gets to 5 figures, legal expenses are considered too. Here's hoping!

In the meantime, my rights in this mess have been signed over to a third party known for their ruthlessness in these matters, so I am effectively clear of the situation as of now... and a little better off ... and a little wiser.

FB.
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Is it 4 figures with or without decimal points, in GBP, Euros or Dollars?
 
Six figures with the decimals ... but apparently it needs to be 5 integer figures!

Richard! Great idea! Damnit! Why didn't I think of that. Maybe next time.

: )
 
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What an unpleasant story.

I am hopeful that the vast majority of sailors would never even consider claiming salvage on a boat which had become unsecured. There but for the grace of god go all of us.

Or is it a wind up? It all seems a bit fancyfull to me. Either way the OP does not come out of this well.
 
I agree. Unpleasant.

Unpleasant to find your boat has gone despite the fact you tied it up with goo 3 years ago. Unpleasant to have to duck the salvor for days. Unpleasant to have to violate an area of beauty failing to collect the boat on one occasion without asking permission. Unpleasant that the boat didn't just sink and earn owners an insurance payout.

Unpleasant to deal with people that have missed the point.
 
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Fatbeard said:
I agree. Unpleasant.

Unpleasant to find your boat has gone despite the fact you tied it up with goo 3 years ago. Unpleasant to have to duck the salvor for days. Unpleasant to have to violate an area of beauty failing to collect the boat on one occasion without asking permission. Unpleasant that the boat didn't just sink and earn owners an insurance payout.

Unpleasant to deal with people that have missed the point.
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Good to see you posting again, I take it your internet privileges have been restored:D
 
Fatbeard said:
I agree. Unpleasant.

Unpleasant to find your boat has gone despite the fact you tied it up with goo 3 years ago. Unpleasant to have to duck the salvor for days. Unpleasant to have to violate an area of beauty failing to collect the boat on one occasion without asking permission. Unpleasant that the boat didn't just sink and earn owners an insurance payout.

Unpleasant to deal with people that have missed the point.
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I think that you are confirming my point. Very unpleasant.
 
I agree with Dutch, you do come acts as a rather unpleasant sort in the thread. As mentioned earlier, I have recovered drifting boats due to being poorly secured and never thought t claim salvage. I have even turned down a cash reward fm one skipper who I recovered. He was drift g after putting water in his fuel.

The point is, it might be me one day, and I would hope someone like me comes to my rescue, rather than someone like you.

I also wonder how you would cope with needing help, or is your boat a bit more of a permanent fixture on its berth?
 
Fatbeard said:
Arrr! Update.

The owners sort of came forward, one of them anyway, with a perfectly nonchalant text message ... all surprised and Best Wishes.

Their insurers, I am told are certain this is not salvage. That may be their opinion. Invoices have been issued vs. the owners in 4 figures. If it gets to 5 figures, legal expenses are considered too. Here's hoping!

In the meantime, my rights in this mess have been signed over to a third party known for their ruthlessness in these matters, so I am effectively clear of the situation as of now... and a little better off ... and a little wiser.

FB.
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I’ve been hardly following this thread as I find the principles of claiming money for rescuing someone else’s boat repugnant.

In this case, if I were the boat’s owner I would simply be forwarding your claim letters to my insurance. That is what he has insurance for.

I guess you’ll have to be the party that starts legal action, but if you arrest the yacht in the process you’ll also have to deal with the claim/action from the owner who, having recovered his property, will probably report you to the police for theft.

I’m sure Fatbeard can look forward to a messy and expensive situation where he could have made a friend and a few free beers.
 
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