David of Essex
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Great to see everything is falling nicely into place, she is looking a real stunner.
David
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Boat in build pics (Squadron 78)
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Trundlebug
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Impressive indeed!
Fascinating thread this, really enjoying it.
The mock up stairs already look an impressive standard of joinery! But they do look quite steep. Do you envisage anyone carrying food / drink up there, or do you have a dumb waiter arrangement, similar to Fleming 65?
Fascinating thread this, really enjoying it.
The mock up stairs already look an impressive standard of joinery! But they do look quite steep. Do you envisage anyone carrying food / drink up there, or do you have a dumb waiter arrangement, similar to Fleming 65?
David of Essex
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In English folklore there is a tale that every ship is built containing a single, commemorative "golden rivet"— the rivet's location is allegedly different for each ship and undisclosed, known only to the owner. Have you got a secret?
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benjenbav
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I do like those aft flybridge stairs.
I know there's loads of built-in redundancy eng-wise there so it won't be an issue but it does seem so wrong to have the load taken by the rails above the treads and yet it has huge visual appeal.
I know there's loads of built-in redundancy eng-wise there so it won't be an issue but it does seem so wrong to have the load taken by the rails above the treads and yet it has huge visual appeal.
jfm
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That pick of the mock up makes them look steeper than they are. The rendering in my later post is a better view. They're similar to the aft flybr steps. They're steeper than normal house stairs as each riser is about 250mm whereas in a house it would be 200mm ish, but they're par for the course in a boat and will have a nice chunky banister. I do envisage food/plates going up/down but I reckon it will be fine - it always has been fine on the Sq58 whose stairs are similar. No there is no dumb waiter - I didn't look into the idea becuase to be honest I don't want one and dont want to burn up the space it takes.
jfm
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Not yet. I work near Hatton Garden though so I'll see if they can make me a 25mm x 24ct self tapper that I can screw in somewhere!
jfm
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It's not obviously how you'd build a staircase if working in wood but it works fine and looks great. The banister rail is about 60mm dia thick wall tube and there is loads of stiffness/strength in the fabrication. (Sq58 stairs are the same but only on one side; the other side of the treads are attached to a side wall)
Mind you the inside stairs are unconventional too - they will be made in 6mm plate for the horizontals and 4x2 inch s/s RHS for the vertical riser posts, all in a zig zag construction as shown above
benjenbav
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I guess you'd have to have a real porker on board to see any deformation.
jfm
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I guess you'd have to have a real porker on board to see any deformation.
You're welcome anytime mate
(Did i just say that?)
wakeup
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Looks great JFM, did you try the kitchen up steps and did they work without bashing head up torso down?
jfm
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Yup, they work fine, no bashing. I'm very pleased with them. They made a slight tweak to the geometry that's hard to explain in words but which will make them a bit steeper than my rendering above, but they're still ok. As soon as you're on step 2 your shoulders are in the hatch so you feel very secure. You don't actually need a bannister, arguably, but they're going to put one on anyway as it makes a nice extra handhold. So overall i'm very happy with them.
The contruction/detailed design they're now going to make is very nice with 4x2 inch RHS polished stainless, under lights in LED, etc. I'll get another pic in 3 weeks or so
wakeup
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Cool, yes I think you need more above water LEDs to achieve max OB rating. Please keep the pictures come for us boat spotters.
jfm
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Right! OK pay attention:
Along the side decks there are twice as many LEDs as the standard s78 build. One every metre or so, transom to bow. you wont miss me at anchor!
Flush LEDs under the internal flybr stairs, and two under the bottom step due to a nice design tweak that I'll get a pic of soon
LEDs in the main stairs down to the cabins level
Rope LED moodlights around the bottom edge of double beds in master and VIP
Swan neck stalk LED reading lights above all beds
RGB LED mood lights under the saloon sofa/chairs and under the inside dining table sofa, so the whole saloon/interior can be subdued-lit at floor level in any colour. Pink swooshing to purple, if you're having charlie round
(only kidding, officer)LED lighting for stainless steel name on transom
LED lights in the bimini
LED illuminated www.latitudekinsale.com white chart to hang on bulkhead twixt galley and saloon (being made in lovely Kinsale as i type)
Blue LEDs in all light switches to illuminate the 5 (Gewiss)dots
Fully LED back lit elec control panel (pic above)
Lumishore LED RGB u/water lights on mothership and tender
Surely that's enough Wakeup for a few OB points? I can't believe I'm writing this - it sounds like a branch of Stringfellows
longjohnsilver
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Do I remember that you're having Vosper stabs fitted, which if memory serves me well is what your brother also has? On Eos we have the main Trac control panel in the wheelhouse but with a simpler control upstairs which allows us to just turn them on or off when underway. I think you've also said you're having the ability to use them when anchored, presumably powered by the genny? Did you consider Trac and Naiad?
All looks great jfm, bet you can't wait to see her launched and start using her. And you must have a golden rivet ;-)
All looks great jfm, bet you can't wait to see her launched and start using her. And you must have a golden rivet ;-)
petem
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JFM it is indeed a thing of beauty.
Must say that I'm always in awe of these guys who can put together so many different and complex components and make it all work and look fab.
I shall look forward to seeing her in the flesh - you are going to bring her up to Tewkesbury before you go tho the med aren't you
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Must say that I'm always in awe of these guys who can put together so many different and complex components and make it all work and look fab.
I shall look forward to seeing her in the flesh - you are going to bring her up to Tewkesbury before you go tho the med aren't you
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Finally here is the flybridge dash. I’m very pleased with this. It’s my personal view of how a dash should be which means near vertical screens that you can reach without leaning forward, and the steering wheel parked off to the side so the navigator can sit in front of the screen cluster and the helmsman can keep out of his way (though, the helmsman can see the screens too). Hours of my time (mock ups and drawings) have gone into this (plus a lot of £££), followed by weeks of Broom Boat’s time making the plug and mould tool, and then Axon have made custom panels, and the Fairline team have done a one-off assembly, so it’s very pleasing to see it turn out so nice. The bowthruster control is the new proportional one with “hold” function, as featured in the latest MBY. Fairline have done a perfect job on the assembly, down to getting Carlingswitch actuators in matching beige-silver colour and custom engraved with the function of the switches. They have still got a Perspex lip windscreen to make for the top edge. Eagle-eyed viewers will note that gauges cluster behind the steering wheel is 50mm too far to the right. The panel maker (not Fairline) didn’t follow the drawing but the panel has been remade and will be replaced in next few days, so gauges will align with steering wheel
Just like the Sealine in build post, no steering wheel
Looks really good, doesnt seem that long ago I was watching the daily progress of the plug and now its made and on the boat, will make sure I come and have a look when shes at LIBS
jfm
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Hi LJS. My brother has Vospers and they work well. I have Sleipners, for various reasons, one being that they have the lowest height inside the hull of the major brands, and Fairlines are built lowish (due to road bridges in a post way above in this thread) which means there isn't much room beneath the floor of the master cabin where the stabs are located. The other reason is that most builders buy an integrated stabs and thrusters package from same supplier, and Fariline were tooled up for Sleipner thrusters. So Sleipner seemed a sensible choice. Nothing worong with Trac and Naiad of course. I'm v happy with the build of the Sleipner stabs and of course await the sea trial results
Interesting that you have two controls. I'll look into that.
Yes, mine work at zero speed, powered by genset. There's a touchscreen control at lower dash where you can turn them on in at-anchor mode. I'll flick them off when people go swimming of course, and I'm not sure but I think Fairline might insist on some "Danger keep away from moving stabiliser fin" decals along the water line amidships. I have seen that done on sunseekers though I don't know if s/seeker do that on all their zero speed stabbed boats
PaulGooch
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Very nice job with the dash John, very nice indeed.
MapisM
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Careful there. Turning stabs on and off at cruising speed puts a lot of unnecessary stress on the whole hydraulic system, and it's pointless anyway, because if you're cruising in calm waters the fins movements are rare and very little, therefore both the power absorption of the pump and the cylinders wear are negligible.
I always turn them on and leave them centered for a while, to warm up the system. Afterwards, before turning on the fins movement, I slow down at just 2 or 3 knots. Naiad manual actually recommends to turn them on at zero speed, but I actually think that's too strict.
Anyway, the only reason I can see for a repeated control upstairs is to set them centered while maneuvering.
Turning them on/off while underway is a no-no, in my books.
MapisM
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Now that's a serious electric panel!
I for one would be interested to see a more detailed pic.
Are the cables below the panel the only one feeding all the controls?
Very nice design, but don't the suspended steps flex at least a little? I would have considered attaching each step to two tubes on each side, with the "front" tube following under the step and attached also to the step below, and the "rear" tube attached also to the step above, if you see what I mean. Overall, that would have required just one more vertical tube, but with an inherently much higher stiffness.
Gorgeous job indeed. The only thing I'm not sure of is the throttles placement.
I understand that you needed all the space on their right for the screens, but won't they be too near to the wheel?
Btw, I suppose that the captain while cruising will spend quite some time on the stbd seat, leaving the wheel to the copilot, so placing the throttles more in the middle (maybe between the small screens?) could have made sense also in this respect.
A really impressive vessel, overall. Possibly the best mix of proper cruising capabilities and high OB rating I've ever seen!