Boat in build pics (Squadron 78)

benjenbav said:
Are you still thinking of bringing her round to Lymington between commissioning and shipping to SoF? I cleaned my teak specially on Saturday, in the hope it might pass muster. I have absolutely no idea what it looks like dry as it then rained until I went home on Sunday evening. I did discover that teak cleaner or teak brightener makes an unpleasant wound if one is foolish enough to get it into a minor abrasion and am currently wearing a sterile dressing on my right wrist which has produced the usual puerile comments at work!
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I'd like to but it might only be a quick visit. FL are handing the boat over to me 1+2 March, and i am contracted with Peters + May on a ship leaving from Southampton between 1 and 25 March. I'm hoping the ship will sail later in that period, say after 12 march, fingers crossed on that, and in that case I might stick Match in OV or Lymington for 4-5 days before the ship. Whatever happens, it wont be for a long period. One week max I expect. Anyway, hope to see you and the teak! I'll let you know dates when I know them myself :)
 
benjenbav said:
In the wake vid the central plume of spray seems to blow laterally to port and then to starboard whilst the transom is staying pretty level. Is that owing to the stabs?
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Well spotted bjb. I didnt notice at first but that wake does look a bit weird. jfm, when you switch the stabs off, do they return to a neutral position or is it possible that they stop in any position? If they can stop in any position, is it possible that they set up a slight oscillation in the hull at speed causing that wake oscillation? Just a thought
 
Deleted User said:
when you switch the stabs off, do they return to a neutral position or is it possible that they stop in any position?
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They automatically lock on centre when you switch off, but they were on in that wake video and there was a decent cross wind blowing. See the port side crest of the wake, in the far distance- the crest is being broken off and blown sideways by the wind
 
Mention of Match in the BYM News

Copied below is the write up about the Fairline 78 in Monday's issue of the BYM News.
(it is online at http://www.bymnews.com/news/newsDetails.php?id=81732 )

I presume that Fairline will have lots of nice photos of Match on display in Miami?
Hope so!
Am sure she will have a huge following in the New World as well, never mind the boring folk with no imagination who just buy the 'standard' version. Although they might be kicking themselves after they see the Match photos...... :)

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UK & USA. Fairline Boats: Squadron 78 CUSTOM set for Miami Yacht & Brokerage Show

Monday, 14 February 2011

Fairline Boats, a luxury motor yacht manufacturer, is showcasing the exquisite Squadron 78 CUSTOM flybridge motor yacht at this year's Miami Yacht & Brokerage Show, as part of a trio of Fairline models on display.

The Squadron 78 CUSTOM has been attracting visitors to the Fairline stand at boat shows the world over and Miles Moorhouse, Head of Marketing at Fairline Boats comments:

"It is fantastic to be able to display the Squadron 78 CUSTOM so that prospects can see for themselves how our designers have created such a high level of customisable areas on a production boat whilst maintaining the classic elegance of the trusted Squadron flybridge motor yacht design.

"One of the latest Squadron 78 CUSTOM models to leave the Fairline factory attracted quite a following throughout its development and recent unveiling in January. After posting pictures updating the build of his new Squadron 78 CUSTOM, Fairline customer John Wolf, or 'jfm' as he is known on the Yachting and Boating World forum, gathered interest from fellow members. His popular 'Boat in build pics (Squadron 78)' thread has had over 1000 replies and over 150,000 views since he posted his first picture of the boat in build during June last year."

The layout options of the Squadron 78 CUSTOM are extensive and customers can choose to include a dedicated office, separate walk-in wardrobes or enlarged en-suite bathroom. The dining room and galley can be integrated with the saloon to create a light, sociable area. The magnificent master stateroom spans the entire width of the motor yacht and comprises an en-suite dressing room, as well as a bathroom with a large walk-in shower, or an optional whirlpool bath. The spacious flybridge is also comprehensively equipped.

Further custom options include, but are not limited to, an additional long range fuel tank, fin or gyro zero-speed stabilisers, changes to bulkheads and furniture, and an additional staircase. To find out more about the customisable options available when purchasing a Squadron 78 CUSTOM, visit the Fairline booth (ramp 36, Collins Avenue) during the Miami Yacht & Brokerage Show, where a model will be available for viewing.

As with the other larger models in the Fairline range, purchasers of the Squadron 78 CUSTOM have the benefit of a dedicated Yacht Division Consultant who advises and consults with them throughout the entire purchase.
Visitors will also have the opportunity to view the Targa 58 GRAN TURISMO and the Squadron 65. Scale models of the new Targa 50 GRAN TURISMO, which made her world launch in January 2011, and Squadron 50, scheduled for launch autumn 2011, will also be displayed
 
jfm said:
They automatically lock on centre when you switch off, but they were on in that wake video and there was a decent cross wind blowing. See the port side crest of the wake, in the far distance- the crest is being broken off and blown sideways by the wind
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Ah ok, I thought you'd have the stabs off at planing speed. All the same, do you think the action of the stabilizers sets up some kind of oscillation in the hull at planing speed. Those fins must generate huge force at 25kts compared to 10kts. Its all academic because the boat looked perfectly stable at speed but just out of interest. What kind of difference to the stabs make to the ride at planing speed?
 
Bajansailor said:
After posting pictures updating the build of his new Squadron 78 CUSTOM, Fairline customer John Wolf, or 'jfm' as he is known on the Yachting and Boating World forum, gathered interest from fellow members. His popular 'Boat in build pics (Squadron 78)' thread has had over 1000 replies and over 150,000 views since he posted his first picture of the boat in build during June last year."
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So, jfm, are you a sheep in Wolf's clothing????;);):D:D
 
Pinnacle said:
So, jfm, are you a sheep in Wolf's clothing????;);):D:D
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Blimey, he'd have to shoot you after he told you. That kind of stuff is top secret info known only to a handful of security cleared bigwigs at MBY Towers:)
 
Deleted User said:
do you think the action of the stabilizers sets up some kind of oscillation in the hull at planing speed. Those fins must generate huge force at 25kts compared to 10kts.
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I also had the impression that it was sort of an oscillation,
and was surpriced how much the stabilizers move while being at planing speed; was expecting just a few degrees in stead of almost to +/- 70 %
for shure they generate a huge forse, but its a heavy boat,
anyway, she sails so nice !
 
BartW said:
... was surpriced how much the stabilizers move while being at planing speed; was expecting just a few degrees in stead of almost to +/- 70 %
for shure they generate a huge forse, but its a heavy boat,
anyway, she sails so nice !
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In that video the boat was only doing about 12kts in a medium beam sea. I dont think the stabs move that much at 23kts (!)

There is no feeling of any oscillation caused by the stabs. Remember the stabs only reduce rolling, not pitching in a head sea. The sensation you get is simply that they reduce the rolling motion, though they do not eliminate it 100%. If you place an iPad on a table with the inclinometer app, which some of the guys on board did, it showed the stabs reduced a +/-5deg roll to +/-2deg.

The boat will go to sea again this Thursday (tomorrow) to test some further software improvements in the stabs, and also they are fitting new solenoid valves to the hydraulics tomorrow, higher spec, bigger, faster acting, to reduce the reaction time of the stabs. The Sleipner guys are putting much effort into getting max performance from these stabs!

I'll try to go on the sea trial and youtube it. Here's hoping for big seas and lousy weather :-)
 
I'll try to go on the sea trial and youtube it. Here's hoping for big seas and lousy weather :-)[/QUOTE]

John, the forecast is showing strong easterlies, so wear your thermals. Looking forward to the vid and pics.
 
jfm said:
TBH, if an anchorage needs much stabilser action I wont be spending the night there except by very rare exception. I'd rather drive round to the other side of the headland/island to find flat water. I hate gensets running all night and if I had to do that more than one night in a whole season I'd call that a bad season!
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I see what you mean J, but the main usage I've always envisaged for zero speed stabs is in anchorages affected by the odd navigation waves, rather than constantly bashed by the sea.
Of course I agree that I wouldn't anchor on the "wrong side" of an island, if given a choice, but I can think of many beautiful and quiet bays where a ferry or other big boats passing at distance could spoil your day, if someone's bringing a tray with tea cups up on a F/B stair... Even more so on such gorgeous stairs! :)
And that's the real zero speed stabs territory, imho.
 
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MoodyNick said:
We would still be very pleased to be of service. I will make sure BenJenBav keeps his grubby feet well away ;)
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Honestly! I'll try not to tread too much mycil powder into jfm's carpets.

PS Thx for the tip about the police station. I got rid of all my time expired pyrotechnics at the weekend. Laura (swmbo) said, you didn't used to get that sort of help anywhere else. I said; that's because Nick's on the case. But now you've gorn and disparaged me poor old feet. :D
 
The sea trials today went really well. The predicted storms didn't materialise and the sea was pretty flat, though there was just enough swell to make the boat roll say =_3-4 degrees when stopped beam on, so we used that plus our own wake to test the stabs

The stabs were fantastic and I'm really pleased with them. On the first seatrial they were pretty good, but Sleipner were using their early software at that point. Then on the trials a couple of weeks ago they installed new software and there was something odd about the motion of one stab so they didn't perform well. Sleipner then re-checked and it turns out there was a small software code error whereby the angular postion of one stab was being wrongly fed into an algorith (or something like that...), so they corrected that line of code and today the stabs were fantastic. Top marks to Sleipner on this: they had two of their tech engineers with laptops over from Norway today. I didn't take notice of all the detail but they were talking to their colleagues in Norway who tweaked the code, emailed it over, then it went into the stabs computer by USB and we were all set. They also changed that SKF spherical bearing that was clunking in the above youtube vid, so the clunk has gone

The stabs seem to take out 3/4 of the boat's rolling, which is fantastic. We made a pretty big wake and sat in it beam on and the boat rolled without stabs, obviously. They the stabs were switched on and the difference was stunning, and instant. The boat just went nearly still. Fantastic. Also, for a party trick the Sleipner guys made the fins swoosh side to side inside the marina on the berth and they got the whole boat rolling left and right a good +/-5 degress on its berth

So, I'm completely happy with the stabs and look forward to getting to know them some more

I was busy and didn't take many pics; just these as we called in at Shotley marina (where some forumites like Paul G have boats) to pick someone up en route from Ipswich out to sea

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Excellent news, jfm. Seems like your decision to fit stabs has been vindicated
 
John, what did you finally decide to do with the treatment / protection of the wooden gardrails on the deck ?
looking at the video, I'm not sure if they are treated yet
 
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