lisilou
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ooops...wrong thread.
Boat in build pics (2013 Fairline Squadron 78)
- Thread starter jfm
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npf1
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slight fred drift but might be interesting to some on here:
http://www.growthbusiness.co.uk/gro...capital-support-brings-return-to-profit.thtml
http://www.growthbusiness.co.uk/gro...capital-support-brings-return-to-profit.thtml
Observer
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Been staying away from this forum so missed all this excitement. All I can say, John, is "Well done. Well done". Hope you get all the pleasure from using her that you have from masterminding her creation.
jfm
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Good to hear from you T. Hope all well there. I noticed (having been there a lot recently) that the good ship FP is no longer in Ipswich - sold or moved to new cruising grounds? Hope to catch up again one of these days
Observer
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Thanks John. Like to get down to Swanwick if I can. Needs face to face to explain history. If I don't make it then deserved satisfaction go with you. Great job.
MapisM
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I must strongly disagree with that.
Ok, it all depends on what we mean by need, I suppose.
After all, jfm just told us that even in a Sq78 the standard is single stern cleats, so I guess it's fair to say that you don't really need them also on a boat as big as that.
Otoh, in a few occasions (btw, a couple of them - the worse by far - were in Croatia), when I needed to adjust the mooring lines in a blow, the double stern cleats have been quite handy indeed.
PS: with apologies for the o/t...
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Deleted User YDKXO
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Don't get me wrong. I would like to have double stern cleats on my boat because I'm quite anal about cross lines when moored stern to and ensuring that my boat is exactly perpendicular to the quay but I don't think they are absolutely necessary. One substantial cleat on a 50 footer is fine in terms of security
MapisM
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Well, I accept that you can live with one stern cleat per side if that's all you've got, but I don't see why you (and also Ferretti for that matter, according to what you said) think that a second one is only useful for bigger boats.
I'm pretty sure that jfm didn't spec the second cleat just in case the main one would fall apart, also because in such awful conditions the second (smaller) one is likely to follow the first, rather sooner than later.
It's for better/safer lines handling that a second cleat is useful, to be able to adjust several lines independently - and not just for the spring lines, btw.
Sure, that's not something you'll use on a daily basis, but when I had to adjust the lines in a proper blow, it has been extremely useful to always keep at least one of them secured while adjusting the others (I had three lines on each side, in those occasions).
Hurricane
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Two stern cleats would be really nice
We only have one and often end up with two lines on the same cleat.
However, I would never want to give up the low level ones that we have low down beside our bathing platform.
In fact for conventional stern to berthing, the main stern cleats handle one line each and the crossover lines are best from the low level bathing platform cleats.
So, all in all, 2 stern cleats each side would be nice but there are more important things IMO
We only have one and often end up with two lines on the same cleat.
However, I would never want to give up the low level ones that we have low down beside our bathing platform.
In fact for conventional stern to berthing, the main stern cleats handle one line each and the crossover lines are best from the low level bathing platform cleats.
So, all in all, 2 stern cleats each side would be nice but there are more important things IMO
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Deleted User YDKXO
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Yup I agree but on smaller lighter planing boats like mine you can temporarily tie one line to a handrail whilst you adjust the other line and its no big deal. On a larger boat you would have to be more careful about releasing lines from cleats and transferring them elsewhere so yes double stern cleats would be nice to have on every boat but its not realistic. Besides that, its really only in the Med that stern to mooring is used. In the rest of Europe, boats are moored against pontoons so double stern cleats are a waste of time
Whitelighter
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Looking really good John.
Let us know if you are going to be there on the Friday as that's the only day I can get down. Would love to see the difference between the two match's
Let us know if you are going to be there on the Friday as that's the only day I can get down. Would love to see the difference between the two match's
Firefly625
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Thanks Taz, and everyone, for the nice comments. I'm obviously very pleased with her and looking forward to final delivery and sailing away
The name is a bit of a long and dull story. I needed a unique name and prefer UK part 1 flag, so that limits your choice, Also I wanted something short and snappy - with the price of these letters, short is definitely sweet) "Match" is mostly just a word/sound that I like, and a vague reference to a chapter in my work life many years ago that set in motion a line of business that has been a lot of fun and paid for Match, i suppose. Bizarrely, Firefly625 guessed it on the Match1 build thread - it is a reference to Swedish Match, which is a fascinating (for geeks) business case study of the world's firstish multinational, the power of monopolies, a CEO called Ivar Krueger (an engineer and owner of several fine powerboats) who eventually topped himself/was murdered after a running a semi-Ponzi scheme long before Ponzi. But the boat name isn't deep-and-meaningful: I had to think of something when the naming deadline for Match1 came round and just picked "Match" on a bit of a whim
May not be deep and meaningful but still quite striking (please ignore the pun)
Btw, you do have a stunning boat jfm, you must be very pleased with the outcome. And that wake shot in the video truly ridiculous !
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scubaman
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J, I hope you don't mind a slight drift, but I thought I'd post the pics of the old 'Match' I pm'd to you earlier.
I friend of a friend went through quite some trouble to purchase this boat from Sweden. According to my non-boating friend, he bought if off 'The Swedish Match -family' and that the boat was something of a national icon is Sweden.
Lovely boat, and looking from that perspective, Match 2 carries on the same immaculate standard being a perfect match (sorry
) for it's 30's (?) counterpart.
The tender is called 'Safety'.
I friend of a friend went through quite some trouble to purchase this boat from Sweden. According to my non-boating friend, he bought if off 'The Swedish Match -family' and that the boat was something of a national icon is Sweden.
Lovely boat, and looking from that perspective, Match 2 carries on the same immaculate standard being a perfect match (sorry
) for it's 30's (?) counterpart.
The tender is called 'Safety'.
taz
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J, I hope you don't mind a slight drift, but I thought I'd post the pics of the old 'Match' I pm'd to you earlier.
I friend of a friend went through quite some trouble to purchase this boat from Sweden. According to my non-boating friend, he bought if off 'The Swedish Match -family' and that the boat was something of a national icon is Sweden.
The tender is called 'Safety'.
The tender is called 'Safety'
Love it
Danchc
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It's gone very quiet.....
So, I thought I'd ask a question.
Somewhere, I thought I read that the Load Line Length of the Sqd 78 was about 22.39m (the figure stuck in my mind). Is this correct? How much does it change between, say, Half Load and Full Load?
Obviously, this is a different value (and possibly more important) than the LOA.
Oops, that's two questions. Ah well, I've never said I was good at counting
So, I thought I'd ask a question.
Somewhere, I thought I read that the Load Line Length of the Sqd 78 was about 22.39m (the figure stuck in my mind). Is this correct? How much does it change between, say, Half Load and Full Load?
Obviously, this is a different value (and possibly more important) than the LOA.
Oops, that's two questions. Ah well, I've never said I was good at counting
Alistairr
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jfm, many congratulations on becoming a Boat Owner again. We hope you have many happy hours onboard, and please continue with pics and videos of your adventures.
Best Wishes,
Alistair, Kirsty and Callum.
We hope you have many happy hours onboard, and please continue with pics and videos of your adventures.Best Wishes,
Alistair, Kirsty and Callum.
jfm
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It's gone very quiet.....
So, I thought I'd ask a question.
Somewhere, I thought I read that the Load Line Length of the Sqd 78 was about 22.39m (the figure stuck in my mind). Is this correct? How much does it change between, say, Half Load and Full Load?
Obviously, this is a different value (and possibly more important) than the LOA.
Oops, that's two questions. Ah well, I've never said I was good at counting
Off hand I don't know the LLL of the boat Danchc. It will be around 21-22m. The exact value doesn't usually matter on a boat of this size - all that matters is whether it is > or < 24m, and Match2 is definitely <24m. LLL does not vary with the actual loading (people, fuel, stores) of the boat. It is a fixed value dependent only on the hull shape and dimensions
pks1702
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Superb looking vessel thanks for posting.
You serenely went passed out Marina in your video and the Sea Trial will have helped increase the depth locally
'bling' is good - the illuminated name especially impressive.
Hope you have many happy hours aboard.
You serenely went passed out Marina in your video and the Sea Trial will have helped increase the depth locally
'bling' is good - the illuminated name especially impressive.
Hope you have many happy hours aboard.
CMJ
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Hi John - 'Match 2' is absolutely stunning.....many congratulations!
I think we've all learnt so much reading both the Match 1 and Match 2 threads - I've mainly been lurking rather than contributing but thank you for all of the time you've put into this to share the experience with others.
BTW, the night club interior has really worked I reckon - I love it.
I'm currently unsure if I'll be able to make it down to Swanwick for the show which is gutting as would love to see her in the flesh - but regardless, have a great time
Chris.
I think we've all learnt so much reading both the Match 1 and Match 2 threads - I've mainly been lurking rather than contributing but thank you for all of the time you've put into this to share the experience with others.
BTW, the night club interior has really worked I reckon - I love it.
I'm currently unsure if I'll be able to make it down to Swanwick for the show which is gutting as would love to see her in the flesh - but regardless, have a great time
Chris.
jimmy_the_builder
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I'm currently unsure if I'll be able to make it down to Swanwick for the show which is gutting as would love to see her in the flesh - but regardless, have a great time
Unfortunately the show was only on for three days, and finished yesterday. And as per the other thread, Match has already left Swanwick for more exotic shores further west...
Cheers
Jim
