Boat identification and engine sizing

[robsbots]

Hi all.

Im new to the forum and new to boats.

My self and my next door neigbough got hold of a boat to turn in to a fishing boat.

We have no idea what sort of boat it is. It was a sailing boat but has lost its mast and rigging along the way.

As you can see she has seen better days.

Some pics hosted on my site here (Just click on a pic to see a larger image.)

We would like to know what sort of boat this is, what sort of speed we can expect, what size outboard to use and anything else you could tell us.

As you can see from the pictures we are currently restoring/rebuilding it. We hope to have her back in the water for January if possible.

Lots of work but should be fun when shes done.

Thanks for any help you can offer
Rob and Phil

 

[robsbots]

Appologies for the double post

Many apologies for the double post. Thought the first one had not appeared so I tried again. What do you know. They both turn up.

Anyway. Apologies again.

 

[Keith 66]

Looks like a Robert Tucker designed Silouhette, probably built 1960's.
It wont be that fast 5knts or so & you wouldnt need anything more than a 5-6 hp outboard lest the back drop off, most of them ended up on bonfires years ago, looks like it could be fun though, make sure you have safety equipment when you go out!

 

[Tranona]

Not a Sillouette - too big and does not have reverse sheer.

Almost certainly 60s and probably home built from plans. There were many about at the time - most never finished! I don't recognise the particular design but it is a sailing boat and to be honest will not make a good motor only boat. Assume it has some sort of keel and would originally had a mast and sails. The rudder would hang on the post in the middle of the transom and the outboard would be on a bracket where the bare patch is starboard side of the transom. It would probably been a 3-4 hp, likely a Seagull.

To be honest, if you are looking for motor only you would be better finding a boat that was designed for the job. You are likely to find this very slow and probably rolly as it was designed to sail with the motor just to get to and from a mooring or use when there is no wind. This boat needs a lot of work and you could be disappointed with the results after all your efforts.

 

[Niander]

Get a large british seagull that would do the job
you could pick one up for around £60 on the bay.....or ill sell you one....
got a few...

 

[DownWest]

Hi, hate to be difficult, but it has the typical forward reverse shear and aft normal shear of a Tucker design. plus the bilge keels look right too. The Silouhette (sp) was 16ft long, does that fit? Agree that a 4/5 hp engine would be top power as a sailboat hull is designed with different aft sections than a power one. Power usually has wider and flatter rear end. Be carefull how much you chop out of the middle, a lot of that gives the hull needed rigidity! Might have been easier to ID if you had posted pix BEFORE you applied the saw.
You could Google for a pic of the boat to compare, try Silhouette and Robert Tucker as key words.
A

Just looked at the other set of pix, not so sure, but might be one with a different cabin.

 

[Tranona]

Definitely not a Silouhette. The ply ones had a much more exaggerated reverse sheer and a much smaller and lower cabin as well as bilge keels which are not evident in these photos. It may well be a Tucker design, but not one that I have seen before. Another possibility is GlenL designs from the US who also sold plans in that era.

 

[robsbots]

A few more details

I will take a few more photos of her current condition. The roof of the cabin is back in place which shows her lines better. This needed replacing and is back for measurement only. The new cabin will be the same size and shape as the old one so she should keep some of her former character.

She is 18 ft long, has 3 keels/stabilizers on the bottom about 3ft in length and 12 to 18 inches from hull to edge. The divide for the cabin will be replaced once we have replaced a piece of rotten deck . The rear of the cabin roof sits on this frame. The front is supported on a large wooden arched member sat on 2 pillars which tie in to 2 pieces of wood which, in turn ,tie in to the frame of the hull. Just in front of this arched support sits the bracket which took the mast. It seems the whole force of the mast was taken by the cabin roof.

I will have a hunt trough google again with the names you have mentioned and see if I can find something similar.

Thanks

Rob