Boat Break Ins at Fareham

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2 boats on the Fareham Sailing Club pontoon and 3 boats on the creek have been broken into recently. Last time I was down there the police launch from Portsmouth came up twice one day.
The problem with boat security is that it may just increase the damage done when breaking in?
 
My boat is down that way it has always been a concern to me there is literally nothing on my boat but I worry about the damage done for others to find out that nothing is in there I was thinking of starting a security program where it would be a donation based thing and patroll the harbour in more depth and be in touch with harbour police I have seen the police patrol on occasion but have never been approhed to ask what I am doing as I visit my boat at all sorts of times including the middle of the night I could be doing anything
 
More boat break ins Saturday including mine. Broke the door,hinges and lock. A few things taken. According to police many boat thefts in Portsmouth and porchester. Suspect is thought to have a white possibly Honda motorbike.
 
My boat is down that way it has always been a concern to me there is literally nothing on my boat but I worry about the damage done for others to find out that nothing is in there I was thinking of starting a security program where it would be a donation based thing and patroll the harbour in more depth and be in touch with harbour police I have seen the police patrol on occasion but have never been approhed to ask what I am doing as I visit my boat at all sorts of times including the middle of the night I could be doing anything

Sounds like security has come to a full stop. Luckily, it seems not to be catching. ;)
 
We are lucky - touchwood - only to have the odd breaking into boats at our club; rather than pro thieves, it's usually junior lowlives on summer holidays; last time this happened a few years ago they came a few times and did some damage, stole things like torches and bino's, but threw a chum's generator into the water out of sheer malice.

Then they tried it again, and one of them got stuck in the mud, had to be rescued; the trail of footprints out to a boat made a national paper's front page - yes, unfortunately he was rescued by Coastguard - as juniors we're not allowed to photograph them - officially - but they know that we know who they are, seems they've gone elsewhere to pollute somewhere else nowadays.

We discussed a night patrol on a rota, but there is a huge snag to this; if one or two club members - quite possibly well into retirement age - did come across some lowlife up to no good, what are they going to do ? Police won't respond, and they might well be up against a violent nuttter high on something.

I have used a camera with a powerful flashgun to good effect in the past, but as a general 24/7 solution it's hard to beat CCTV with night vision - and lots of notices mentioning it.

A boat on a mooring is very vulnerable, it's difficult to strike the right balance between too easy to get in - or too much damage if the lowlife are determined.

I have heard of blue water sailors having a bottle of scotch laced with poison, so if they get intruders ' at least they'll take them with them ' - that's probably frowned on officially, so maybe leave out a chocolate cake made with ex-lax ?! :)
 
More boat break ins Saturday including mine. Broke the door,hinges and lock. A few things taken. According to police many boat thefts in Portsmouth and porchester. Suspect is thought to have a white possibly Honda motorbike.

If you know this bike or see it a call to the police would be good.

It seems the police have a number for the white Honda bike LP60WPW
 
The thefts from Fareham boats has a strange pattern. Break ins but no mindless additional vandalism. Things taken off one boat eg a bottle of whisky but tablet computer ignored and a boxed new VHF waiting to be installed was left. Another boat 2 sailing coats taken but electronics, binoculars and bottles of wine & gin ignored. Some boats had winter covers removed but no attempt to break in but another boat had staples holding a stainless bar cut with bolt croppers.
I wonder if different people are involved as the level of determination is different and whether someone has a "shopping list" or just someone with a grudge against "posh" yachties as some of the thefts seem almost token!
 
String a few fish hooks around the cockpit and saloon ..... That should entertain them for a bit .if push comes to shove you were only hanging your Mackeral feathers up to dry ! :)
 
Times have changed a bit since the 80's. A couple of wee scrotes took a dinghy and rowed out to my boat in Portsmouth harbour. A phone call to the QHM got a Plod boat on the scene (it may have been ModPod) within 20mins and they were dealt with appropriately. I watched it all from my office window, which was a few miles away but overlooked my mooring.
 
Any chance boaters in the area forming a boat watch as I set up 12 years ago. From night watches done by members we have advanced to cctv and night vision cameras with full recording. It can help but wont stop the odd scrote who is determined. The Police are very helpful in our area and help us out a lot.
 
We are lucky - touchwood - only to have the odd breaking into boats at our club; rather than pro thieves, it's usually junior lowlives on summer holidays; last time this happened a few years ago they came a few times and did some damage, stole things like torches and bino's, but threw a chum's generator into the water out of sheer malice.

Then they tried it again, and one of them got stuck in the mud, had to be rescued; the trail of footprints out to a boat made a national paper's front page - yes, unfortunately he was rescued by Coastguard - as juniors we're not allowed to photograph them - officially - but they know that we know who they are, seems they've gone elsewhere to pollute somewhere else nowadays.

We discussed a night patrol on a rota, but there is a huge snag to this; if one or two club members - quite possibly well into retirement age - did come across some lowlife up to no good, what are they going to do ? Police won't respond, and they might well be up against a violent nuttter high on something.

I have used a camera with a powerful flashgun to good effect in the past, but as a general 24/7 solution it's hard to beat CCTV with night vision - and lots of notices mentioning it.

A boat on a mooring is very vulnerable, it's difficult to strike the right balance between too easy to get in - or too much damage if the lowlife are determined.

I have heard of blue water sailors having a bottle of scotch laced with poison, so if they get intruders ' at least they'll take them with them ' - that's probably frowned on officially, so maybe leave out a chocolate cake made with ex-lax ?! :)
Now that idea (chocolate cake made with ex-lax) I like!
 
An Important Tip I heard from people on here - repeated by police - watch out if you quickly replace stuff like electronics etc - the pro's know you'll have done this and come back for the latest models !
 
We are lucky - touchwood - only to have the odd breaking into boats at our club; rather than pro thieves, it's usually junior lowlives on summer holidays; last time this happened a few years ago they came a few times and did some damage, stole things like torches and bino's, but threw a chum's generator into the water out of sheer malice.

Then they tried it again, and one of them got stuck in the mud, had to be rescued; the trail of footprints out to a boat made a national paper's front page - yes, unfortunately he was rescued by Coastguard - as juniors we're not allowed to photograph them - officially - but they know that we know who they are, seems they've gone elsewhere to pollute somewhere else nowadays.

We discussed a night patrol on a rota, but there is a huge snag to this; if one or two club members - quite possibly well into retirement age - did come across some lowlife up to no good, what are they going to do ? Police won't respond, and they might well be up against a violent nuttter high on something.

I have used a camera with a powerful flashgun to good effect in the past, but as a general 24/7 solution it's hard to beat CCTV with night vision - and lots of notices mentioning it.

A boat on a mooring is very vulnerable, it's difficult to strike the right balance between too easy to get in - or too much damage if the lowlife are determined.

I have heard of blue water sailors having a bottle of scotch laced with poison, so if they get intruders ' at least they'll take them with them ' - that's probably frowned on officially, so maybe leave out a chocolate cake made with ex-lax ?! :)

They could carry one or two of these ;)

 
Now that idea (chocolate cake made with ex-lax) I like!
I own a boat on a canal mooring, i am also a very experienced security installation and servive engineer, running my own bespoke business for 30 years.

Tempting as it very much is, you could be prosecuted for administering a poison.

Mantraps are strictly forbidden in UK law!

If you organise a rota, you could easily place whoever is in duty in severe personal danger.

You can arrange to form a club and have a guarding company to make regular patrols paid for out of club fee's.

You would be wise to chat with the local CPO for advice on how to stay on the correct side of the law.

Alan
 
Yes that's the elf n' safety self important police version, but what's the lowlife boat burglar going to do, ' scuse' me officer, I got the runs really badly just after I broke into that boat ' ?

If leaving out a dodgy chocolate cake, I think I'll be pro-active against thieves and risk plod counting me an easier target; they won't help so someone has to do something, leaving out a cake is not exactly Batman or Mad Max ! :rolleyes:
 
Intruders do not like noise or light.

There are cheap ways to protect like using the battery operated door alarms found in the large DIY sheds.

Therei is also 'smart water' that sprays intruders with an encoded dye. A bit further up you have 'smoke cloak', which if triggered fills the areas with dense inert non to it smoke within seconds, if you can't see it you can't steal it.

(Google it).

Old smartphones can be hidden and used as cheap trackers, useing apps like 'find a friend'. You can alsilo get GSM transmitters.

If your 'dodgy cake' causes an alergic reaction, you could find yourself being sued or prosecuted for assult.

Alan
 
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