Bilge Pump - Resettable Hour Meter

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I am trying to source a 12v resettable hour meter, I would use it in conjunction with a counter, to let me know how may times the pump had switched on, and for how long.

Wasted a few hours today Googling, hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
 
GaryCottam said:
I am trying to source a 12v resettable hour meter, I would use it in conjunction with a counter, to let me know how may times the pump had switched on, and for how long.
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I don't know of any reasonably-priced monitor which will record both the number of cycles and the run time.

The Celectron Bilge Watch which PaulRainbow suggested won't record run time - although it can show how long a pump has been running when it's actually running. It's also impenetrably complicated; take a look at the user manual! - http://www.celectron.co.uk/User_Handbook_Screen.pdf
 
I use one of these as a resettable run time display on my fridge to calculate the duty cycle

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HOUR METER

And a 12Vdc electro mechanical counter for the on/off count. I use 2 of these on my 2 electrical bilge pumps

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CSK6-YKW Electromagnetic Counter 6 Digit Electronic Pulse Counter DC 12V/DC 36V | eBay
 
GaryCottam said:
Thanks Paul, that's cheaper than I have seen elsewhere as well.
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There's a load of these on Ebay Gary 0.56" Red LED Digital Counter Meter Count Timer Timing Three Function DC12V-24V | eBay

It looks as though t might be capable of counting and timing (not at the same time). So it might be possible to fit two, one to count the times it runs and one for total run time.

That said, is it really that important to know how long the pump was running ? If it's only run once since you last visit there can't be much water getting in. If it's run 39485793857693587968 times, you have a big problem :)
 
PaulRainbow said:
There's a load of these on Ebay Gary 0.56" Red LED Digital Counter Meter Count Timer Timing Three Function DC12V-24V | eBay

It looks as though t might be capable of counting and timing (not at the same time). So it might be possible to fit two, one to count the times it runs and one for total run time.

That said, is it really that important to know how long the pump was running ? If it's only run once since you last visit there can't be much water getting in. If it's run 39485793857693587968 times, you have a big problem :)
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Yes I have some of those but they require power all the time so they don't loose the existing count value

Thats why I went for an electro mechanical counter and a time with inbuilt battery in my fridge duty counters
 
Rogershaw said:
Yes I have some of those but they require power all the time so they don't loose the existing count value

Thats why I went for an electro mechanical counter and a time with inbuilt battery in my fridge duty counters
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The description states:

Description:

Fast response when count and count meter
High accuracy
Including three operating modes: Counter, Meter count , Timing
Top Quality & High Performance, easy to operate
Hold the value when power off
 
PaulRainbow said:
The description states:

Description:

Fast response when count and count meter
High accuracy
Including three operating modes: Counter, Meter count , Timing
Top Quality & High Performance, easy to operate
Hold the value when power off
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Does it hold the display when the power is off.
 

So you assume that "holds its valve also means it will display that valve when the power is off"

Do you you believe everything you read and way suppliers and standards authorities say.
 
Rogershaw said:
So you assume that "holds its valve also means it will display that valve when the power is off"

Do you you believe everything you read and way suppliers and standards authorities say.
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How do you suppose it will display the value when the power is off ?

It means it will store recorded values in non volatile memory whilst the power is off and display them when power is restored.

There is not need for your rude, snide and argumentative comments, i've simply posted a couple of suggestions for the OP.
 
PaulRainbow said:
How do you suppose it will display the value when the power is off ?
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Internal power supply like my fridge resettable timers

PaulRainbow said:
It means it will store recorded values in non volatile memory whilst the power is off and display them when power is restored.
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Having designed several devices like that over the years I know how the data is stored.

PaulRainbow said:
There is not need for your rude, snide and argumentative comments, i've simply posted a couple of suggestions for the OP.
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Only after releasing your origional posting would not do what the OP wanted after pvb's post

Yes as I commented on your recommendation and its issues.

I have used in the real world both the units I recommend and have one you posted purchased and unused s I found it did not display the readings with the power off as you have just confirmed. Again it up to the OP.

So again it seems if anyone comments on you posting that become rude, snide and argumentative comments in your eyes.
 
Rogershaw said:
How do you know have you seen/used the one i have again your making assumptions.



Its you who is digging not me you just don't like being contradicted.
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I'm not talking about yours, i'm talking about the Ebay ones i linked to, which you said needed power to retain the count value.

The description in the listing states that they do not.

Simple, you are mistaken.

Here's another listing for the same device: Digital LED Punch Counter 5 Digit Electronic Counter DC 12V 24V Count 0-99999 | eBay

States "with a power memory function, data retention of 10 years "
 
PaulRainbow said:
I'm not talking about yours, i'm talking about the Ebay ones i linked to, which you said needed power to retain the count value.

The description in the listing states that they do not.

Simple, you are mistaken.

Here's another listing for the same device: Digital LED Punch Counter 5 Digit Electronic Counter DC 12V 24V Count 0-99999 | eBay

States "with a power memory function, data retention of 10 years "
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But I was talking about mine

This one seems to have a different spec to the original you posted. This says counter not 3 programmable functions. It also speaks about contact bounce so not as universal as others.
 
Rogershaw said:
But I was talking about mine
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You said "Yes I have some of those but they require power all the time so they don't loose the existing count value"

This one seems to have a different spec to the original you posted. This says counter not 3 programmable functions. It also speaks about contact bounce so not as universal as others.
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It's the same device. If you read the listing for 10 different listing, by 10 different sellers,you'll find lots of them have differing descriptions of the same device.
 
pvb said:
I don't know of any reasonably-priced monitor which will record both the number of cycles and the run time.

The Celectron Bilge Watch which PaulRainbow suggested won't record run time - although it can show how long a pump has been running when it's actually running. It's also impenetrably complicated; take a look at the user manual! - http://www.celectron.co.uk/User_Handbook_Screen.pdf
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I have had the Bilge Watch on two boats now, one with a single pump, one with multiple pumps. In practice you ignore the complicated features, which I agree can be daunting, and simply check the display which tells you which pump has ran and number of times. That does the job for me, reassuring me I don’t have a hidden problem being masked by automatic pumps.
 
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