Bilge keel less than 30ft.

dgadee said:
Yes, sporty, though not sure 12kts of wind and two reefs ever had me in that position.

I may know who bought it and he is happy with it.
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Even my tiny foxhound 24 bk doesn’t need a 2nd reef until the wind hits 20kts.

In that 12kts I was stood on the side of the cockpit locker pulling the tiller as hard as I could, and we were only making 5kts stw. It was all heel and no speed. I washed my hands in seawater coming up the plug hole in the heads, we were heeling that much. I wasn’t man enough for that boat, and my missus certainly wasn’t. With the size of the rig, it needed the back row of a rugby scrum to handle it.

I hope the new owner got it tamed.
 
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Dellquay13 said:
Even my tiny foxhound 24 bk doesn’t need a 2nd reef until the wind hits 20kts.

In that 12kts I was stood on the side of the cockpit locker pulling the tiller as hard as I could, and we were only making 5kts stw. It was all heel and no speed. I washed my hands in seawater coming up the plug hole in the heads, we were heeling that much. I wasn’t man enough for that boat, and my missus certainly wasn’t. With the size of the rig, it needed the back row of a rugby scrum to handle it.

I hope the new owner got it tamed.
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Just check - what was it called?
 
Egret said:
Any of the Hunter Horizons - or a Hunter Ranger for a bit more space inside and realistically if there are more than 3 of you.

All have nice cabin arrangement with neat toilet compartment - standing headroom if not too tall - squeeze a lot in to the space and sail well.

Outboard in well option worth considering. Have a survey - check the keels - particularly if it has taken the ground every tide for the last 50 years

There's a good article by Peter Poland on bilge keelers on this PBO website which gives a lot of information and options.

Key question for you is whether you are looking for one that will sail reasonably well, like a Hunter, or if you are more looking for a floating caravan type, with more space inside, to chill out on - or something in between.
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I bought a Ranger on ease of use and it's reputation for good sailing performance.

It's a bit sensitive to rig tuning but once that's set up and with a new main it sails vey well often matching bigger boats. One extra well worth having for light airs is the Code 0 sail - Hunter call it a Scooper - which makes up for the rather small jib.
 
dgadee said:
Yes, sporty, though not sure 12kts of wind and two reefs ever had me in that position.

I may know who bought it and he is happy with it.
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I think the cobra 850s suffer the same. Mine sails best with a reef in the main otherwise your pulling the tiller hard to keep it straight.
 
Buck Turgidson said:
RM Yachts if you fancy something modern.
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I know these can (and do) dry out, but are they durable enough to do it regularly? Similar with small Django? I think they use some sort of stern "prop"?
Any Limitations?
I understood these boats probably not Suitable to base on a drying mooring all season? Grounding at big wind over big springs can be a bit brutal here, on hardish sand...

I was advised against this on my Swallow BC26. Twin fixed rudders and inboard, for a start. Rudders are oversized, but...

However, My Swallow 20 was quite happy on a tidal mooring for >3 years. However much more "dinghy like". Centre board and a lifting rudder...and a v stiff double bottom due to the water ballast and air tank arrangements.
 
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