Avocet
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You'd get a whole FLEET of Cutlass 27s for £30k! Other than being over 30 years old, they will "tick all the other boxes" handsomely. A fantstic sea boat, but like all long-keelers of that style, not much space down below.
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orion50
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I think the 30 year old bit is too rigid.
Some boats older than that will have been re-engined, loads of new gear installed, possibly new sails. This input from the previous owner will never be fully reflected in the asking price. Some older boats show their age in terms of interior design (volume) - however if you buy a boat which has been someone's pride and joy in recent years and actively sailed rather than being laid up, you could end up with something very nice. buying local means you can view a few times , have a trial sail, learn a little of the history of the boat.
good luck!
Some boats older than that will have been re-engined, loads of new gear installed, possibly new sails. This input from the previous owner will never be fully reflected in the asking price. Some older boats show their age in terms of interior design (volume) - however if you buy a boat which has been someone's pride and joy in recent years and actively sailed rather than being laid up, you could end up with something very nice. buying local means you can view a few times , have a trial sail, learn a little of the history of the boat.
good luck!
chockswahay
Member
a few good replies.............thanks guys.
I should have added that I am just over 6ft tall (rules out Folkboat etc) and that as big as possible forepeak would be nice
Reason for less than 30 years old is because we intend to keep this one for a long long time!
I am also into 'less is more'..........all the goodies can fail.
My last boat was too big, too complex, too difficult single handed.
Also must be easy on the eyes and nice inside!
Needs to be comfortable motion in an F6 to F8 coz that's where I always seem to end up
I know I know.............asking for the impossible !!
Cheers
I should have added that I am just over 6ft tall (rules out Folkboat etc) and that as big as possible forepeak would be nice
Reason for less than 30 years old is because we intend to keep this one for a long long time!
I am also into 'less is more'..........all the goodies can fail.
My last boat was too big, too complex, too difficult single handed.
Also must be easy on the eyes and nice inside!
Needs to be comfortable motion in an F6 to F8 coz that's where I always seem to end up
I know I know.............asking for the impossible !!
Cheers
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V1701
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Especially good when there's a choice of the same make/model available. A year ago I'd decided on a Vega and picked the best of those available at the time. It had recent engine/peripherals, main, no.1 & 2 sails, self-tailing winches, folding prop, cushions/upholstery and more, which the owner will have paid probably in the region of £7k or something I guess. I bought for £10k and only paid that much because I tracked it down via the forum before it was actually put up for sale. I've added a chart plotter/AIS, dinghy/outboard, reinforced the mast support, added a Navik windvane & a new tillerpilot but I think would do very well to get my money back just a year later (not that I want to sell). You could get a reengined Vega now for £7/8k, fantastic value for what you get...
doug748
Well-known member
Albin Ballad?
I know, probably too old, plus the layout below is more suited to racing.
Victoria 30? You might get lucky and find an older model in the price range.
I know, probably too old, plus the layout below is more suited to racing.
Victoria 30? You might get lucky and find an older model in the price range.
onesea
Well-known member
a few good replies.............thanks guys.
I should have added that I am just over 6ft tall (rules out Folkboat etc) and that as big as possible forepeak would be nice
Reason for less than 30 years old is because we intend to keep this one for a long long time!
I am also into 'less is more'..........all the goodies can fail.
My last boat was too big, too complex, too difficult single handed.
Also must be easy on the eyes and nice inside!
Needs to be comfortable motion in an F6 to F8 coz that's where I always seem to end up
I know I know.............asking for the impossible !!
Cheers
Must admit I would not off some of the plus 30 year boats. They are also the ones I would prefare to ut in a gale in.
MY suggestions although maybe look just over 30' but easily handled and not complicated.. You will get ALLOT of boat for your money if you shop wisely.
Moodys various just over 30' mark,
Nicolson 35,
Others that have been mentioned,
ukmctc
New member
Trapper 500 or Moody 33 Mk1 both excellent as liveaboard and cruising and cheap to buy.
Price range Trapper 500/501 £8500 to £15000 Moody £9000 to £30000.
Both yachts are sea kindly and forgiving, and will take care of you in all weathers.
Ross D
Member
+1 for a Vega, it definitely ticks all the boxes, several have been round the world. Buying one would give you a lot of change from £30K so you could make the upgrades you wanted, new engine, sails etc and get everything working very well with still having loads of cash to spare. Rather than buying a boat at the top of you budget and having no money to upgrade it.
If you are planning to keep it for a long time then you will get the benefit of money spent on upgrades. I would always prefer to buy a cheaper boat and upgrade it, than a more expensive boat and trust everything works. You get more for your money and you know everything works.
Ross
If you are planning to keep it for a long time then you will get the benefit of money spent on upgrades. I would always prefer to buy a cheaper boat and upgrade it, than a more expensive boat and trust everything works. You get more for your money and you know everything works.
Ross
joha
New member
Carter 30.Quite quick good sea boat in a gale quite a bit of room downstairs for a seventies boat small cockpit though, but secure and easy to handle single handed and actually 29.9ft
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RobF
Active member
LM27 would be my vessel of preference. Wheelhouse steering for the scottish summers and pretty bullet proof. You could go for an LM28 if you didn't mind having a long fin keel and skeg.
Or just go for the Halmatic 30 on YachtsNet (http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/boats/w56811/w56811.htm)
Or just go for the Halmatic 30 on YachtsNet (http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/boats/w56811/w56811.htm)
Bobc
Well-known member
Can you not get a Sadler 34 for that sort of money? I would have thought it would cover most of the requirements
Porthandbuoy
Well-known member
I've just got to plug the Nicholson 26 like wot I sail. Okay, the hull is >30 years old, but everything else is less
Have a look Here and scroll down for Ladybird.
Have a look Here and scroll down for Ladybird.
rob2
Active member
I have a Weston 8500,1986/7. It has a fin and skeg configuration but still has a deep-veed hull, giving a very sea-kindly motion. Each boat was finished to the owners whim, so it is worth checking that the berths are sufficient for your frame - being fairly short myself it is not a problem.
Although a little older and with slightly less headroom the original hull design is the Varne 27 or 850. There are a few around in Scottish waters.
Have a look on http://www.varne.co.uk/
Rob.
Although a little older and with slightly less headroom the original hull design is the Varne 27 or 850. There are a few around in Scottish waters.
Have a look on http://www.varne.co.uk/
Rob.
kds
New member
How about trintella 29 ?How about a Trintella 29 ?
Trintella 29
Yes - Van der Stadt at his traditional best. Full keel/rudder, but low wetted surface.
Great in a blow - but suprisingly fast in light airs.
Too old ? No - well mine was moulded by Tylers in '76 but not launched until 2004 - all new interior and rigging, mast, engine, etc.
Make me an offer !
Ken
Trintella 29
Yes - Van der Stadt at his traditional best. Full keel/rudder, but low wetted surface.
Great in a blow - but suprisingly fast in light airs.
Too old ? No - well mine was moulded by Tylers in '76 but not launched until 2004 - all new interior and rigging, mast, engine, etc.
Make me an offer !
Ken
Sniper
Member
Obviously, there's only one real choice - a Twister! Later all GRP ones should qualify.
Later all GRP ones should qualify.
E39mad
Well-known member
Victoria 30
Rustler 31
Rival 32
Contest 29
Centurion 32
Sovereign 32
Rustler 31
Rival 32
Contest 29
Centurion 32
Sovereign 32
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Tranona
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You now have 35 suggestions - and not even scratched the surface of the number of designs that will meet the criteria.
Although questions such as these provide an interesting insight into other peoples' choices, difficult to see how it can help in your decision.
Although questions such as these provide an interesting insight into other peoples' choices, difficult to see how it can help in your decision.
Lakesailor
New member
Quite, I day-sail so the cockpit is very important to me as that's where I spend all my time.
My Valiant 18 was a bit of a slug and would round up at the drop of a hat, but the cockpit was really comfortable.
Neither my Foxcub or the Seahawk was a patch on it in this respect, although much better boats.
Other people's opinions can only be a guide, you have to ensure the boat suits your own needs.
My Valiant 18 was a bit of a slug and would round up at the drop of a hat, but the cockpit was really comfortable.
Neither my Foxcub or the Seahawk was a patch on it in this respect, although much better boats.
Other people's opinions can only be a guide, you have to ensure the boat suits your own needs.
shaunksb
Well-known member
Do you really want a long keel to coastal sail singlehanded?
What about something a little more fun and manouverable like a Hanse 301
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