Berthing woes

Elessar

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Went to Gunwharf yesterday after a quick trip to Cowes. Single handed and it was a bit windy, so I asked for a berth being blown on.

Port side to I was told, port is easiest on my boat single handed so I decided to go in forwards, unusual for me.

I put a nose in to have a look, I had to go between 2 boats about 20ft apart to a dead end, then go sideways to port in front of the one boat on the left. There were 2 boats on the right, filling that finger. It looked a bit tight, no possibility of turning round so I nipped back out to fender up my starboard side in case I blew over.

Got the forward fender on before I was blown too close to the wall, back to the helm for a bit if sea room and I could see the harbour chap there waiting to help so I didn't bother with the aft starboard fender.

Down the gap, bows to a RIB which was across the dead end in front of me. Marina chap took my forward line so I could get the stern in, but with my bow overhanging the rib I was still overlapping the boat on my port side - I wasn't going to fit.

I asked the marina guy to move the RIB forward so I would fit, he did so but let go of my forward warp to do so. It was all a bit gusty and lots of wake coming in too to add to the excitement. I did drift over to the right and touched the yacht alongside me, it was the second on the right. The RIB was moved and by now more rope handlers had arrived to help, and I was in. Even without the RIB I had only about 2 ft behind me and I was overlapping the pontoon with my bows.

I wish I'd put the rear fender out but it was very gentle, i didn't think I'd done any damage, but I mentioned it to the marina guy - he agreed there was no damage but I wanted to leave my name anyway just in case. Wife and friends arrived by car and we had a nice evening.

Doing my checks in the engine bay this morning, a knock on the boat - Hi skipper you hit my boat. Yes sorry, I was about to say, and he said the damage was at least £2000 which raised my awareness. Then he said the boat name - the first one on the right as I went in. And I definately hadn't touched it. The chap was friendly not agressive but definately assertive - he was having none of it, I'd hit his boat. The balance of evidence was against me he said. After a long conversation I think he believed me. The fact that I'd left my name for the boat in front helped I think. And yes I did touch the boat in front but I don't make a habit of hitting things, but whilst that's true I couldn't really say that could I? The damage to his boat was indeed substantial, the rear pushpit had been hit hard and was out of shape. No way whoever did it did it unknowingly.

Leaving this morning, it was still a bit windy and my wife was with me now, so I asked her to have a roaming fender in case the bows blew. I fendered the bow so I could get the stern out, then go forward on the left engine to get the bow out, astern starboard etc until I juggle out to the middle then straight astern. It would take a few goes as I could only go forward and back about 4 feet. I always check forward in reverse on both engines before casting off as those who have been with me will testify.

So astern on starboard engine, the stern came out, getting close to the boat behind so, neutral on starboard, forward on port - the bows came out, but faster than planned or expected. Still getting closer to the boat behind so neutral on port, forward on starboard to stop the swing of the bows to starboard. Still going back the wind must be stronger than I thought, give it some revs on starboard forward and crunch hit the boat behind hard.

The pin had come out of the gear selector on the starboard engine and it was stuck in gear astern. Thus my corrective action made me accelerate in the direction I didn't want to go. The boat behind was a dolphin nose sealine like mine so has a rub rail round the bows. It has a mark the size of a 5p on the rub rail but I have damage down to the matting sadly. And I now have a SE INE according to the badge on the back :(

And yes I left my name.......
 
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>Went to Gunwharf yesterday after a quick trip to Cowes. Single handed ...
>Leaving this morning, it was still a bit windy and my wife was with me ...
That was quick, even by GunWharf Quays standards.
Many people try "dating" for a while first.

>I don't make a habit of hitting things
Vrrooom, vrrroom, boiing, crunch?
Motorboating isn't meant to be a contact sport :)
 
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Oi! FP, Leave 'im alone!

At least he's honest about it. Most on here wouldn't dare mention a minor incident like that. Hard Luck Ellessar, there are days like that for all of us. I reckon your caution has saved you a much worse outcome - a lesson to us all.
 
More seriously, there are things you can plan for, and things that you can't. In a tight spot, an engine or a steering system not doing what you asked it to is invariably going to lead to some sort of crunch, and you managed to keep it to be a fairly minor one.

Nobody hurt, boat still on top of the water, propellors still propellor shaped = could be worse!
 
Nobody hurt & boat still afloat - got to be minor in the real scale of things hasn't it?

Lots of people have their boats ashore & sunk all around our coast this weekend after the high tide & wind coincided. Yeah, I reckon it's minor.
 
Nobody hurt & boat still afloat - got to be minor in the real scale of things hasn't it?

Lots of people have their boats ashore & sunk all around our coast this weekend after the high tide & wind coincided. Yeah, I reckon it's minor.

yep you and FP are right. Thanks for helping me get it in perspective.

Still flippin annoying though.

Has been one of those weekends having had my fuel tanks out I've had to change the filters twice, both at sea of course, because of all the dislodged crud combined with the general bumpiness of things.
 
Elessar, sorry to hear about your woes. Gunwharf is not the best place for such "incidents" with the world and his wife looking on. Expect a vid on Youtube before the weekend's out.
 
what was it like in CAERNARFON?

TBH I don't know. I'm in the river on the trots so it is very sheltered & big tides & surges shouldn't make much odds. Different on the Slate quay (probably flooded) or in the Victoria Dock. I may try ringing Dick Dock tomorrow, but he'll proabably be in Chapel. :D

Nowt bust or sunk in Caernarfon to my knowledge.
Checked yer 'conservatory' Steve, still there!:)
Had to go and sort out 1 prob
Liferaft off 'Sally Port' (40ft Cheverton) that ply's Her trade from Plas Newydd
Had managed to detatch itself from the wheelhouse roof , inflate, right side up and dally off towards Caernarfon!!!
Tree smashed a car and a van to 'half size' on the road to Brynsiencyn.
Yacht came 'loose' of it's mooring in the Strait about Ynys Faelog in the Strait but not damaged too much.

Some boats in Holyhead had an 'interesting' evening according to Holyhead coastgaurd however!:eek:
 
Elessar;2576724 And yes I left my name.......[/QUOTE said:
A few days ago I witnessed a boat 'parking' , ok a slab sided sports boat with a single outdrive.
OK. Not always the easiest in a fresh wind.
The peeps hit the neighbouring vessel with their anchor.
OK. Not a lot of damage (no wind to talk of, actually on this day) but still, slight damage to gell coat.
No message was left.
Damaged boat owner witnessed the 'incident' from his gaff overlooking the Marina however!
The purpertrators, after eventually making their vessel fast, commenced to drinking!

'Good story' Elessar, if yer gets me drift!:rolleyes:
 
Had the shift pin sheer nn a Princess once, second time out on the boat. Was trying to turn her around in a narrow section of tidal river, flowing about four knots. Must have looked like something out of Monty Python, luckily i don't think there was anyone around to see. Didn't hit any other boats, but you could have neatly stepped off the bow onto the bank a couple of times.
 
Very easily done if the gear selector fails which mine once did. I motored gently towards the shore to take on water at Shell Island, did not seem to be slowing despite lots of reverse, applied more reverse power...seem to be going faster ...by the time I realized what was happening I had gone hard aground and run up the shingle foreshore. Fortunately the boat was a bilge keeler and no harm done but it certainly made the lady on the beach jump when the bowsprit went over her head!

The chap I bought this boat from had a similar gear selector failure (morse cable failed) on his brand new sailing boat and he steamed full power into the lock gate at Liverpool Marina full head on and was very lucky not to lose his mast when the bow section of his boat was totally trashed for about the first 3 ft!
 
Nowt bust or sunk in Caernarfon to my knowledge.
Checked yer 'conservatory' Steve, still there!:)
Had to go and sort out 1 prob
Liferaft off 'Sally Port' (40ft Cheverton) that ply's Her trade from Plas Newydd
Had managed to detatch itself from the wheelhouse roof , inflate, right side up and dally off towards Caernarfon!!!
Tree smashed a car and a van to 'half size' on the road to Brynsiencyn.
Yacht came 'loose' of it's mooring in the Strait about Ynys Faelog in the Strait but not damaged too much.

Some boats in Holyhead had an 'interesting' evening according to Holyhead coastgaurd however!:eek:

Thanks Richard,
Been dealing with SWMBO's birthday & not managed to ring Dick Dock so it's a welcome message you have given me.

I have heard that Holyhead put visitors on the outside of the pontoon & it can get real nasty there. You get a big wash off the Sea Cat too to make it worse. I avoid the "grim grey town" if I possibly can.
 
seemed major to me! It's only the second time I've needed anything more than T-cut to fix things.........

Elessar
I agree that it is good to share these experiences. If nothing else, we other mortals can at least content ourselves that we are not alone. So, thanks.
I only had the boat (F33) a few months when I grounded it at 25kts about 3/4 mile offshore on what, I NOW know, is a particularly famous shoal with about 1m of water. I had obsessed about depth all the way from Troon (I also have a pilot's licence so keeping a distance between me and the ground is ingrained), but in sight of home I dropped my guard and BAM!
Two sterndrives later I am back; a lesson learned. Again, no-one hurt. As the RNLI chap said, "Drown? You could have walked it from here!"
 
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