Beneteau Antares 30 questions

[Anders_P42]

I had a good look over the new Antares 30 on display at SIBS, it seems the finish on the wood has improved and I'm sure the headroom in forward cabin has increased very slightly as I could stand without creek in neck at 6'4". The bed in forward cabin was much larger than I expected, easily big enough for me to stretch out.

To those who own one, is the black tank in your lazzarette? I can't see the tank in this video review at 2:35 and he comments on the big lazarette which seems to be half used by the tank!

How many 240V outlets does the Shore power provide, I spotted one in the above the dinette and one in the forward cabin?

If things go to plan I'll be ordering early next year for delivery around June 2014.

Anders

 

[NoviceRod]

Have you looked into access to the engine for daily checks? It was a big downer for me when I seriously looked at and trialled an Antares 30 last year.

 

[Anders_P42]

Do you know which model year you trialled, it looks like they improved engine access by allowing the starboard engine hatch to open first, which means the seating can stay put?

I also spotted the oil dipstick has a service option on the starboard side of the engine, so I was going to pay the Volvo engineer to move it at first service if it makes daily checks easier.

Standard dipstick on port side

Blanking plate to allow starboard dipstick

 

[baldyash]

We have one, 3 years now.Tank in Lazarette is fuel! Can't personally see a problem with checks as you just lift the 1/2 floor section in the saloon & water filters & dipstick (it has 2 One is a small one on this side of the engine -a bit deep & the other does required a bit more furniture movement) as are fuel filters.We have a Yanmar so can't comment regarding D6 fitment. I fitted another plotter on the flybridge,there being provision for it power & space wise, although the cable between the 2 was shall we say an interesting run! Only 2 240v outlets & they are french type! I teed in another double UK in the forward cabin & fitted a TV above them on the bulkhead. OPTION NOW FOR SINGLE/TWIN NOW but we wanted a single to keep costs down, but bow thruster is ESSENTIAL!! PM me if you want a chat.Boat in Essex
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[jfm]

Anders it would be fab if you resized the pictures to 640 wide

I'm curious about the raw water flow in above picture. Raw water flows left to right (in that picture) thru the black gearbox oil cooler atop the gearbox, then it runs up the convoluted pipe into the main engine exhaust. But it enters the exhaust really close to the turbo, not after an elbow. How does the turbo not get splashed with seawater in that picture?

 

[Anders_P42]

Won't be going far without a fuel tank!

The 240V system is a bit lacking with two outlets and the cheek fitting French sockets. Can you post a pic of your TV install? I wanted one in the saloon but like the idea of another in forward cabin. Is there room for more than one domestic battery, spec includes 1 x 140ah 12V - how long does that last with TV and fridge running?

Bow thruster on the list and probably stern thruster for some piece of mind if required.

Anders

 

[wonky]

Yep, stern thruster a definite bonus, I had one fitted after a year of stress! It does rather get affected by the breeze.
I've got the tv fitted in the cabin. Apparently there was a lot of swearing when Dickies fitted it so definitely get it included when you do the deal, I've got a 19in and it fits perfectly. (Tv)

 

[Anders_P42]

Anders it would be fab if you resized the pictures to 640 wide

I'm curious about the raw water flow in above picture. Raw water flows left to right (in that picture) thru the black gearbox oil cooler atop the gearbox, then it runs up the convoluted pipe into the main engine exhaust. But it enters the exhaust really close to the turbo, not after an elbow. How does the turbo not get splashed with seawater in that picture?

640 wide , that would be a small speck on the iPad

Does the water flow in and around the exhaust elbow a bit like a water cooled manifold, then exit around the outer circumference of exhaust elbow exit?

Anders

 

[Elessar]

Ive been on quite a few of these, done quite a few dayskppier courses on them, and been out in some VERY heavy weather.

The dipstick needs handing, its madness that they dont do this as standard. The only other real fault with them is very tall people cant get comfortable at the upper helm.

And as wonky has said they really benefit from a sternthruster. There are few boats I say this about but on this one it is true. The propwash is significant and the thruster makes some tight spots possible, and de stresses others.

They are economical, handle the rough stuff very well indeed and they are a great boat. Spacious and airy inside, good flybridge, good side decks. At that £ and size would be my choice.

But as youre tall you really do need to check youre happy with the upper helm.

 

[NoviceRod]

Do you know which model year you trialled, it looks like they improved engine access by allowing the starboard engine hatch to open first, which means the seating can stay put?

I also spotted the oil dipstick has a service option on the starboard side of the engine, so I was going to pay the Volvo engineer to move it at first service if it makes daily checks easier.



It was at last years SIBS, and moving the dipstick was offered as an option. The (earlier) model we trialled did involve a lot of furniture removal.

I was looking at the hardtop (30S), so the fly helm was academic, but I could not easily fit myself behind the wheel at the fly helm.

We ended up getting the Nimbus 335, and have been very pleased with her this season.

 

[Anders_P42]

Ive been on quite a few of these, done quite a few dayskppier courses on them, and been out in some VERY heavy weather.

The dipstick needs handing, its madness that they dont do this as standard. The only other real fault with them is very tall people cant get comfortable at the upper helm.

And as wonky has said they really benefit from a sternthruster. There are few boats I say this about but on this one it is true. The propwash is significant and the thruster makes some tight spots possible, and de stresses others.

They are economical, handle the rough stuff very well indeed and they are a great boat. Spacious and airy inside, good flybridge, good side decks. At that £ and size would be my choice.

But as youre tall you really do need to check youre happy with the upper helm.

Upper helm is a tight fit, I was going to remove the back rest to allow a few inches more legroom.

 

[Sydneysider]

Hi Anders,
I have an Antares 30, It is a very simple modification to alter the seat back, this will transform the upper helm. I went back four inches and the flybridge table will not fit lengthways but we do not have it up there much and only at anchor anyway but you probably only need 2, and there is a chance the table may also fit, but 4 inches does give plenty of lounging room.
Regards Scott

 

[Anders_P42]

Hi Anders,
I have an Antares 30, It is a very simple modification to alter the seat back, this will transform the upper helm. I went back four inches and the flybridge table will not fit lengthways but we do not have it up there much and only at anchor anyway but you probably only need 2, and there is a chance the table may also fit, but 4 inches does give plenty of lounging room.
Regards Scott

Hi Scott,

Any chance of a photo of the seat modification? I have very long legs and suspect I'll need 3-4" extra leg room to sit comfortably at the helm.

Anders

 

[Sydneysider]

I will take one when I am next on the boat. For those who have fitted a stern thruster to an Antares 30 or who knows of a company in the UK that does them I would appreciate the contact details as I am considering fitting one to my boat, and the guys here in Australia are looking for clues as there are only a small number of boats here- It seems like a big job involving removing fuel tank?
Regards Scott

 

[Whitelighter]

I will take one when I am next on the boat. For those who have fitted a stern thruster to an Antares 30 or who knows of a company in the UK that does them I would appreciate the contact details as I am considering fitting one to my boat, and the guys here in Australia are looking for clues as there are only a small number of boats here- It seems like a big job involving removing fuel tank?
Regards Scott

Ellessar (posted above) both supplies and fits and has done at least one Antares 30

 

[Elessar]

Ellessar (posted above) both supplies and fits and has done at least one Antares 30

we've done quite a few and thanks for that, but we have no capacity to take any more on for the foreseeable I'm afraid. Nice to be busy!

They are a tricky fit as there isn't much space. They have to be offset, but that doesn't effect their performance at all.

Osmotech I know have done quite a few of them, and I'd recommend them.

 

[Anders_P42]

I will take one when I am next on the boat. For those who have fitted a stern thruster to an Antares 30 or who knows of a company in the UK that does them I would appreciate the contact details as I am considering fitting one to my boat, and the guys here in Australia are looking for clues as there are only a small number of boats here- It seems like a big job involving removing fuel tank?
Regards Scott

Appreciated. I went to the show again on Sat and removed the back rest padding...still not enough leg room. So if your solution doesn't work, I'll have to remove the back rest completely.

I had a chat with Osmotech at the show, they have installed them before and gave ball park figure of £3.5-4K fitted. There an option to fit the motor beneath the bathing platform with controller living in lazarette.

Anders

 

[Elessar]

I will take one when I am next on the boat. For those who have fitted a stern thruster to an Antares 30 or who knows of a company in the UK that does them I would appreciate the contact details as I am considering fitting one to my boat, and the guys here in Australia are looking for clues as there are only a small number of boats here- It seems like a big job involving removing fuel tank?
Regards Scott

Sorry i didn't read this properly. You dont have to remove the tank, you can crawl in just. But it is a tight fit.

 

[Sydneysider]

Thanks Elessar, I have attached a pic that shows a stern thruster from an Antares 30 for sale, it looks like the boat, similar rudder prop tunnel etc. The thruster seems to be mounted on the starboard side of the prop tunnel, but when I look at the transom on my boat from inside there is a fibreglass box holding the steering gear, I could see where you could possibly cut an access hole at the front and mount then thruster with the motor in this box?, but it seems like the fuel tank would need to come out? On the other side there seems to be complication with a fibreglass lining and the anode is mounted there. Is this your installation similar to this? or have you a different location/install?

Anders,
I would have the dealer remove the seat back including metal frame, it is not hard, two bolts that are access though removable panels in the helm seat front. Then you will get a good feel of the helm when you can stretch out properly. The flybridge is well worth having over the non flybridge version

 

[Elessar]

Thanks Elessar, I have attached a pic that shows a stern thruster from an Antares 30 for sale, it looks like the boat, similar rudder prop tunnel etc. The thruster seems to be mounted on the starboard side of the prop tunnel, but when I look at the transom on my boat from inside there is a fibreglass box holding the steering gear, I could see where you could possibly cut an access hole at the front and mount then thruster with the motor in this box?, but it seems like the fuel tank would need to come out? On the other side there seems to be complication with a fibreglass lining and the anode is mounted there. Is this your installation similar to this? or have you a different location/install?

Anders,
I would have the dealer remove the seat back including metal frame, it is not hard, two bolts that are access though removable panels in the helm seat front. Then you will get a good feel of the helm when you can stretch out properly. The flybridge is well worth having over the non flybridge version

that's the only place it can go. Battery goes the other side.

you have to cut an access hole in side of the box. Round corners etc to keep the strength.

don't forget you need to fabricate a support for the motor, as the tube can't take the weight of it.

and you need to fabricate a dam around it to protect it from bilge water.

do as much as you can before fitting the tube as you then have an additional access hole..........

the screws that bolt it on will be all different lengths as your transom varies in thickness there. You need to be very organised when actually bolting the tunnel on as you want those bolts all fixed on before the sikaflex skins over. Anything less than a perfect seal is unthinkable.

it is a tricky fit.

can find any inside pics.

hole goes here

you can see a bit of transom has to be built up and then gel coated

finished job