Being retired; painful

[...] The older generation have more disposable income.
I wonder if that's the only reason.

The young people I know, my two eldest grandchildren for example, don't seem to feel the same need to own things as their parents and my wife and I did.

They have very well-paid jobs and plenty of money to spend, but they prefer to rent very comfortable apartments in cities near their offices and, although they have driving licences, they don't feel the need to own cars. They travel a lot, jetting all over the world, spend a lot on taxis and entertainment (one recently flew back from his home in Singapore to attend the Glastonbury festival and only stayed a few days), and eating out with their many friends.

If they ever felt the urge to go sailing, they would simply charter a yacht with a crew. If they want to drive a car, they rent one.


Now, in extreme old age and burdened with possessions I no longer need, (and probably never did!), I can see the appeal of their rather hedonistic lifestyle.

Problem is, I can't afford it! :ROFLMAO:
 
The average age of boat ownership is 60. Ten years later it is 70.

Sorry about the unwanted excel word.
But...if the average age increases ten years every ten years....there is more or less no new boat ownership...meanwhile the market is dying by about 25-30% per year
 
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The age of ownership rises by 10 years every decade (European wide figures). The older generation have more disposable income.
The older generation may give the illusion of having more disposable income. That's because they have been more selective about how they spend and save.
They haven't bought everything on credit and thereby wasted their money on things like multiple widescreen tvs , the latest iphones, holidays abroad every year, multiple stag nights and associated multiple divorces and extravagant weddings and loads of beer.
 
I wonder if that's the only reason.

The young people I know, my two eldest grandchildren for example, don't seem to feel the same need to own things as their parents and my wife and I did.

They have very well-paid jobs and plenty of money to spend, but they prefer to rent very comfortable apartments in cities near their offices and, although they have driving licences, they don't feel the need to own cars. They travel a lot, jetting all over the world, spend a lot on taxis and entertainment (one recently flew back from his home in Singapore to attend the Glastonbury festival and only stayed a few days), and eating out.

If they ever felt the urge to go sailing, they would simply charter a yacht with a crew. If they want to drive a car, they rent one.


Now, in extreme old age and burdened with possessions I no longer need, (and probably never did!), I can see the appeal of their rather hedonistic lifestyle.

Problem is, I can't afford it! :ROFLMAO:
Yes, it is different.....saying that... I have seen some incredibly young people on extremely expensive boats. Obviously an edge case. But all in all, affluent young people have different aspirations....
 
The older generation may give the illusion of having more disposable income. That's because they have been more selective about how they spend and save.
They haven't bought everything on credit and thereby wasted their money on things like multiple widescreen tvs , the latest iphones, holidays abroad every year, multiple stag nights and associated multiple divorces and extravagant weddings and loads of beer.
Speak for yourself. I’m 70, have had and still have loads of things on finance, and still owe largish fortunes to the bank. I literally love it. I can buy what I want when I want, enjoy it early, pay it off as and when I can/want. I always keep within my means. Finance is a good thing. Overstretch yourself and it’s a death trap. Maybe even literally.
 
Speak for yourself. I’m 70, have had and still have loads of things on finance, and still owe largish fortunes to the bank. I literally love it. I can buy what I want when I want, enjoy it early, pay it off as and when I can/want. I always keep within my means. Finance is a good thing. Overstretch yourself and it’s a death trap. Maybe even literally.
On the plus side, if being in deep doodoo at 70+ is life threatening, you may as well enjoy it before you pop your clogs and not worry about paying it back.
 
On the plus side, if being in deep doodoo at 70+ is life threatening, you may as well enjoy it before you pop your clogs and not worry about paying it back.
Well, the point I’m making is that I can pay it back. But if I did that now I’d have no cash buffers. So I have peace of mind, and the lifestyle and toys and experiences I want, using (in some cases) the banks’ money. If I go to my grave with debts, the estate has ample assets to repay the lenders.
 
The older generation may give the illusion of having more disposable income. That's because they have been more selective about how they spend and save.
They haven't bought everything on credit and thereby wasted their money on things like multiple widescreen tvs , the latest iphones, holidays abroad every year, multiple stag nights and associated multiple divorces and extravagant weddings and loads of beer.
No, housing became an investment rather than a utility. Thatcher cut social housing. Prices rose. Today wealth is in property for most.
 
Not every day can be a sailing day or even a ‘work on the boat day’ and if retired before one’s spouse what suggestions do people have to quell boredom?

The tv is on and I am trying not to snack.

I don’t do gardening or house DIY (although that is on my list and do-able compared to my idea of gardening).

Ideas to quell boredom and rotting away?

I am just about to read a post about “heads pipe cleaning” ! Just renew imo but I haven’t read if there are complications yet.

Interesting how threads are suggested (and strange adverts too).
Go back to work! At something or another. Paid or unpaid. To work is a natural human need; lacking work for many means lacking purpose.

I personally have no plans to give up my work until they pry it out of my cold, dead fingers. The trick is to find work you really like.
 
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Go back to work! At something or another. To work is a natural human need; lacking work for many means lacking purpose.

I personally have no plans to give up my work until they pry it out of my cold, dead fingers. The trick is to find work you really like.
I agree….but only for some…others hate work even when they have great jobs….these are the people who are gobsmacked when the Lottery Jackpot winner announces they won’t be giving up work
 
I’m not doing paid work now but I fill some of my time by volunteering. Love it. It’s like work without the obligations.
Well I volunteer here..
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And the room I'm normally showing people round was until 1993, the computer room for this building , it had two Marconi Elliott 920C computers, with their interfaces they it filled the room 60 ft long 20 ft wide. There were few early integrated circuits in the computer itself, but mostly it was transistors.
I didn't work on those, but worked on others of a similar vintage.

My own first computer I built soldering chips onto a empty PCB, in 1980,

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After that it was a heavily modified Sinclair spectrum, then a modified QL. Then eventually a PC assembled by me of course. The current PC is a descendant of that, much updated, but looking like it's due another upgrade as it won't run win 10.
 
I agree….but only for some…others hate work even when they have great jobs….these are the people who are gobsmacked when the Lottery Jackpot winner announces they won’t be giving up work
Work is a basic part of life. Not liking work is like not liking sex.

The number of people who don't like ANY work must approach zero on this site. Boat ownership is a job you never get to the end of. We curse that sometimes, but underneath it all I think that's a powerful reason why we do it. There's always work to do; no chance for boredom, even if we don't have other work.
 
The trick is to find work you really like.
Or to be more imaginative. I gave up a great job and career at 45 and now still have plenty to do. I also have a huge list of things I’d like to do if and when sailing stops being exciting. I can’t imagine only having one dream
 
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