BBC television licence(non boaty)

[gonfishing]

Hi All
can anyone please explain, why, when students go of to university and are staying in halls, each and every single one of them must possess a tv licence???? I would have thought 1 licence per hall of residence would be ample. Does this rule apply to Hotels ?? does each room need to be individually licenced??
Why the discrimination ??

julian

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[burgundyben]

dont know about that but it always seemed a little unfiar to me that blind people only get a 10% or so discount, I'd have thought 90% would have been fairer?

<hr width=100% size=1>Sod the Healey - I think I'll buy an E-Type.

 

[BrendanS]

Hotels are covered on the basis that guests are overnight and not residential. If residential, they will need separate licences.

Incidentally, students sharing a house also need separate licences for tv's in their bedroom if they have separate agreements with landlord

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[rickp]

Hotels have special rules because they rent out accomodation overnight (and they do get charged more - a full fee for the first 15 units of accomodation, then another full fee for each 5 unit thereafter).

There are a bunch of other exceptions (such as care homes) listed on the TV licensing site http://www.marmalade.net/lime/ makes interesting reading for those who've ever had to put up with the harassment you get from the TVLA if you don't have a license (whether you have a TV and don't have it 'installed' or just forgo the dubious pleasures of broadcast TV altogether).

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[Geoffs]

Boats?

I think we're supposed to have a separate license for a TV on a boat, aren't we?

<hr width=100% size=1>Old Chinese proverb 'Man who sail boat into rice field, soon get into paddy'

 

[rickp]

Re: Boats?

I don't think so. I quote:

"The TV Licence for your main address will, however, automatically cover any TV used in a touring caravan, vehicle or boat, or any televisions operated by their own internal batteries."

Rick

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[tcm]

i am totally unimpressed with tv licensing. swmbo sorts it while i mutter. Note that they spend far far more on adverts than they do on tv detector vans, of which iunderstand there are a handful in the country.

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[BrendanS]

Re: Boats?

Fine so long as the TV your using is running off *internal* batteries. Handheld type thing

Run it off ship batteries or mains, and you need a separate licence

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[hlb]

But Like The Rest Of Life

It's a bit more complicated than that.



your main home at the same time, you'll need a separate TV Licence.

However, if a TV isn't being used in your static caravan or mobile home at the same time as in your home, you don't need a separate TV Licence. In which case you'll just need to complete a declaration form (see below).

The TV Licence for your main address will, however, automatically cover any TV used in a touring caravan, vehicle or boat, or any televisions operated by their own internal batteries.

For more information, or a declaration form, phone 0870 241 6468.

Or you can write to the address below.

Personal information that you provide will only be used by the TV Licensing Authority (BBC and its service providers) to help administer the TV Licence system, including licence applications, fee collection and enforcement. Your personal information will


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Haydn

 

[BrendanS]

Re: But Like The Rest Of Life

Hmm! You're right...wonder how many fill in a declaration form.

Me, I got caught when I was a student /forums/images/icons/frown.gif

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[rickp]

Re: But Like The Rest Of Life

You don't need to do a declaration form for a boat. I read their blurb to say that your 'home' licence covers any TV used in a touring caravan or boat. It will also cover any TV run from its own internal batteries regardless of location.

I too have had my run ins with the TVLA (though I proved I was in the right - and they had to concede). You have to be careful - their website describes *their* interpretation of the rules which are rather more draconian than reality.

This FAQ helps <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.jifvik.org/tv/>http://www.jifvik.org/tv/</A>

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[jfm]

Licence enforcement

I have come to the conclusion they never check in normal residential areas. 18 months ago we bought a house. We plan to demolish it but so far not done. The prev owners transferred their TV licence when they moved out, and we didn't buy a new licence for the house because it's empty. So the TV licence letters start coming. Regularly every month. They esacalate...

First, polite reminder to buy licence
Then another few
Then stern warning about breaking the law, big fine
Then very stern warning eek
Then "you are on our list, van WILL visit"
Then several more similar
Then "you are specifically listed as not having replied. Our van will be in you area next week. You are VERY HIGH on our list and will specifically be visiited by our bloke"

etc.

Yet no-one actually visits the house. If they did, they would see it is empty and curtainless and overgrown

So TCM is right, there are virtually no detector vans, just a big letter-writing computer. Much of what we pay in licence for the house we do live in has been spent on postage stamps for these letters to the house we dont live in.......

 

[dave36]

This may make you even more angry! I am a satellite enthusiast and am absolutely amazed at just how much the BBC spends on broadcasting content that we in the UK are not allowed to see. The BBC has a global network broadcasting mainly free programming to all that want to see it - FOR NOTHING! This mainly operates as freeview contained in subscription packages of all descriptions. Who pays for this? WE DO!
A few years ago BBC world proudly announced that it had spent £8 million ensuring that it's services were available to the whole of china - gives a new slant to watching Eastenders!
Our students have to pay, no way out! why should they? Students in most other EC countries don't have to as long as the "home address" is licenced.

ps. If your child is at college or uni, there is an entitlement to a refund of approx. £28 for the summer months - most students don't claim it!

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[Bergman]

Re: Licence enforcement

The vans are a complete blind.

Enforcement is by computer records - addresses where no license exists or where license has lapsed. Two men knock on door " er you got a license then?" says no 1 while No2 listens hard and peers about to try to see TV.

Going rate for fine is about £110 may be bit more in affluent South than here in impoverished North - er - how much is a license?

There used to be about 5 vans, doubt there are any more today.

Bet the Beeb don't get a rise this year after the Hutton business.



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[whisper]

Re: But Like The Rest Of Life

Good grief , did they have TVs that long ago !! What's the world coming to - students wanting TVs in their rooms???? What's happened to the sex, drugs,rock & roll and propping up bars that proper students should amuse themselves with? No wonder you can scarcely get more than the odd grunt out of them if they shut themselves away in their tiny room watching TV all the time - shouldn't be allowed !!

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[BrendanS]

Re: But Like The Rest Of Life

I seem to remember it was actually colour rather than black and white, so was probably closer to 20 years ago than 40 years ago.

Wasn't used much though, too busy with sex and drugs and rock'n'roll

Halls of residence management told me I was covered under halls licence, as my living room was considered a public space as students in and out all evening - often 20 of them in there at a time watching Hill Street Blues (back then few students did have TV's in their rooms).

That's until the TV licence inspectors turned up, management decided that I wasn't after all covered, and the court issued me with a 110 quid fine, which was a hell of a lot of money then on a student grant. Boo Hoo!

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[whisper]

Re: But Like The Rest Of Life

Serves you right for trying to lure the women back to look at your small screen - flash git (smiling emoticon)

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[BrendanS]

Re: But Like The Rest Of Life

Ahh! You sussed me! and it worked too {blushing emoticon}

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[gonfishing]

2nd licence may be required

your'e quite correct on this point, except for the fact that if someone is at home watching TV there, and you are on the boat watching TV then you are breaking the law, so you would need a licence for the boat cvaravan etc If there was no one at home then obviously you do not need a second licence

julian

<hr width=100% size=1>man made it ,man can repair it, i think??

 

[rickp]

Re: 2nd licence may be required

I don't believe thats correct. There's no mention of a requirement for a second licence for a boat. There is an explicit mention made for *static* caravans (where if someone is watching the main TV at home, you need a second licence).

Personally, I won't get a second licence when I (finally) get a boat. I guess if you feel unsure - you could always call them. They'll hardly hand out impartial advice though

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