Bawdsey sea defences swept away near martello towers
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Cantata
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Hmmm. Local says that when there were groynes there, they kept the shingle in place and protected the wall.
EA spokesman says they've spent £7M on rocks and thinks that groynes won't help because there's no shingle....
Who shall I believe? Let me think...
EA spokesman says they've spent £7M on rocks and thinks that groynes won't help because there's no shingle....
Who shall I believe? Let me think...
sailorman
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Charlie Brinkley was correct
Cantata
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Of course he's correct.
Same situation down here where rock armour has been used in a couple of places near Reculver, there used to be groynes but these have long worn away and not been renewed, and now the shingle has virtually all gone and the cliffs (similar geology to Bawdsey I believe) are eroding faster than ever.
Same situation down here where rock armour has been used in a couple of places near Reculver, there used to be groynes but these have long worn away and not been renewed, and now the shingle has virtually all gone and the cliffs (similar geology to Bawdsey I believe) are eroding faster than ever.
FullCircle
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That's progress for you. Cant stand in the way of progress.
Computer predicts that if groynes are installed it will get no points on the EA Microsoft Expert Erosion Wars, without an Undo or Hint button being pressed.
Not to mention saving a fiver on the extended horizon view 12 month budget, against the cost of a few blocks and a new Land Rover to view the devastation more quickly than before.
Lucky you aren't getting a virtual internet groyne, almost worthless.
How come the Victorians could afford all this and we can't now?
Computer predicts that if groynes are installed it will get no points on the EA Microsoft Expert Erosion Wars, without an Undo or Hint button being pressed.
Not to mention saving a fiver on the extended horizon view 12 month budget, against the cost of a few blocks and a new Land Rover to view the devastation more quickly than before.
Lucky you aren't getting a virtual internet groyne, almost worthless.
How come the Victorians could afford all this and we can't now?
Stork_III
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The beach at Shotley opposite Fagbury was stripped of sand and shingle recently by the storms, exposing the underlying clay beds. Further erosion there is now going to happen.
sailorman
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FullCircle
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Ah yes, I remember that - everything had 'Empire Made' stamped on the underside.
FulmarJeddo
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Same over on the Sheppey Coast. The EA even demolished what was left of the groynes to get their machinery along to dump the rocks against the sea wall. The rocks are now grinding the sea wall away.
Where our holiday home on the beach at the eastern end of the Island is, we all clubbed together and with the assistance of the local farmer and a digger we rebuilt and repaired our own groynes. A few amateurs have managed to do what the EA seem incapable of. I bet our weekends work and materials cost less than the heavy machinery and importing of the rocks. The good thing that came out of the EA work further along was that they released what sand was there to wash along and top our beach up.
Hadenough
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""Charles Beardall, from the agency, said: "This is one of the most challenging parts of the East Anglian coast, but I don't know whether groynes would be effective because there's not much shingle moving back and forth.""
Wonder why they have to survey the Deben and Alde entrances every year then?
Wonder why they have to survey the Deben and Alde entrances every year then?
sailorman
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How was Orford Ness formed
Cantata
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Quite.
And of course Mr. Beardall doesn't see much shingle 'moving back and forth' (is he referring to longshore drift?) on the shoreline because the groynes haven't been maintained....it's all moved forth and not back.
FullCircle
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Dr Beardall.
It's Dr Beardall.
Clever chap you know. Got stiffkits and evryfing.
http://www.slideshare.net/landscapesforlife/water-under-pressure-charles-beardall-environment-agency
toyboy
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Yes very clever but ruled by politicos who are not very clever or even honest.