Bavaria Graveyard

What Spares!?

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Sailfree said:
I am deafened by the silence of the lack of replies from MAB owners! Surely they must know where this Bavaria graveyard is as they must need the spares as they are always repairing /renovating their MAB's.
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Well, can't give address exactly as was not interested; probably they already sold those for parts anyway. For bav owners - link provided earlier, german ebay, good source.

No spare from Bavaria I could use.
Bronze winches and windlasses (lasting forever, no need to change), bronze turnbuckles, soft rigging wire, stiff spars, tuffnol blocks, old kind engine, dorade vents, glass windows, etc. Even deck fittings of different construction and on bigger diameter bolts. Not to mention wooden cleats. Any such on Bavaria? :p

WayneS said:
they just have not arrived yet. Still on route, tacking through 180 degrees to get here.
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Sorry, different time zone :o
 
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WayneS said:
they just have not arrived yet. Still on route, tacking through 180 degrees to get here.
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Tacking Sir?....godammit!...... I take exception to that comment.....

Tack.....TACK.... TACK!!!!!.... the bloody thing doesn't tack I tell you!!!!!... not with out my hand whittled sweep and removing the towed log at the very very least.... humphhh... no idea.... clearly no idea.... :D
 
awol said:
They did go under in 2007 when their debt was taken over by Bain Capital (Mitt Romney's mob) who made a loss and passed the debt to Oak Tree and Anchorage.

They now include Dufour and Grand Soleil in their portfolio.

What effect that has had on the actual product, I have no idea.
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I may be wrong, but I don't think there was anything wrong with Bavaria and its business at the time. I understood that the family who had founded and built up the company sold it to Bain for more than it was really worth; Bain saddled Bavaria with the debt, as vulture capitalists usually do, but the interest and capital repayments were more than the company's P&L could carry. The attempt to sell on the debt was undersubscribed, hence the fire sale of the outstanding stock.
 
Grumpybear said:
I may be wrong, but I don't think there was anything wrong with Bavaria and its business at the time. I understood that the family who had founded and built up the company sold it to Bain for more than it was really worth; Bain saddled Bavaria with the debt, as vulture capitalists usually do, but the interest and capital repayments were more than the company's P&L could carry. The attempt to sell on the debt was undersubscribed, hence the fire sale of the outstanding stock.
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I think you are absolutely right and my memory has got itself well and truly twisted. The involvement of the vulture capitalists made me presume the body was dead or dying but no, it was alive and kicking.
 
awol said:
I think you are absolutely right and my memory has got itself well and truly twisted. The involvement of the vulture capitalists made me presume the body was dead or dying but no, it was alive and kicking.
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Nice to know my memory still works at times. In passing, I feel strongly about vulture capitalism, as the company I worked at for almost 20 years suffered this fate which led in the end to its going TU a couple of years after my working life (and others') was terminated in a desperate and ultimately doomed attempt to cut costs.

VC outfits seem to have too often had an inflated idea of their own acumen and abilities but, hey, they were only throwing bout other people's money....
 
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