Bavaria Bashers Beware!
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Baggywrinkle
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No, not really.... done to death already on this thread in 2008.
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?177477-Bavaria-Keel-problem-Who-d-test-their-boat-like-this
Sensible post from Barnac1e and there's no doubt that the Match series boats were a mistake and Bavaria justifiably paid dearly for it with the damage to their reputation. But Bavaria owners - post fix - still seem to love them. Don't understand why some people want to dwell so much in the past, or keep regurgitating the same old stuff - it's old news.
Bavaria Yachts produce 3000 - 3500 boats per year, the keels don't just drop off and they don't just fall to bits - if they did then there'd be a massive problem with the 30,000 - 40,000 boats that must be in service.
Anyway, just for you, a ringside seat for some AWB destruction ... enjoy.
And some stricken Bavarias for your delectation, the first one up your neck of the woods at Fairlie.....
This one is a Bav 47, Kalypso - still in service with Ecker Yachting in Zadar http://www.eckeryachting.com/206.html?id=217&L=0 ...
The rest are just random Bavaria owners who had their boats damaged or lost .....
And just to add balance a J-122 .... which really did lose it's keel.
Couldn't find any more but with the number of Bavarias out there, I'm sure there will be plenty more entertainment in future.
For what it's worth I actually like the Contessa 32, and I grew up cruising Scotland on an Albin Vega kept in Largs (after we sold it it got washed up and holed on Largs beach) - but they're just not practical any more unless you're really into them. Given where I now sail and the size of my crew - plus the level of comfort SWMBO and the crew expect, they don't even figure. I still occasionally have nostalgic thoughts remembering summers on the Clyde and the Western Isles - but things have moved on, and boats have got better. Unfortunately there was no internet or you-tube around in the 70s and 80s - otherwise we might have some video evidence of the horror stories of yesteryear to add some balance to these discussions.
Anyway, Happy Sailing and I'm out of this thread .... bb
Plevier
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Haven't heard of that one - any more details or references please?
Rossynant
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Exactly. Better to have strongly attached iron to take ground. All concern is with stiff mounting place, not the configuration.
Internal ballasts in moulded keel were initially of lead - just so to be corrosion resistant, since water always will get there, even from bilges or through GRP. Nobody would say putting iron there was a good practice...
Not to mention Albin Vega was built the way Bavarias use - 'floating' bulkheads, not laminated to the hull. And stories about delamination of cored decks
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Woodlouse
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Fraid you'll have to make do with hearsay.
Plevier
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Well to me that makes it worthless and you a scaremonger.
I don't have a Bav BTW just interested.
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jonic
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I had a Bav 41 and a 47 on the books last year and for the money they were both really good boats - they both surveyed well too.
The 47 had been successfully used as a blue water liveaboard, crossing the Atlantic and cruising in the USA. The owners were very pleased.
The 47 had been successfully used as a blue water liveaboard, crossing the Atlantic and cruising in the USA. The owners were very pleased.
Woodlouse
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The problem is that the results of surveys for private clients are not generally published on the Internet. Since that is where almost all of the informtion regarding the failings in Bavaria's is to be found you'll have to make do with unsupported opinions on open forums. It doesn't mean you have to disregard it out of hand though.