roa312
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The other thing is @ tankage if 6000 L. I just can’t see in a gusta 80 even a D speed ( low rpm aged engine issues aside ) how you could only visit the fuel dock once in season of “c 200 “ hrs ?
Out tankage is 2200 spread over three .Should be 1600but it was specced with a a extra long range tank .
I don't know the accurate fuel burn figures of a Mangusta 80. It was you who applied the owners 130 gallons/hour@35 knots to estimate fuel costs (where you converted to a high end of 800 ltr/hour??). If the numbers are unreliable then no point in using them to estimate costs. This is not to disagree that it is a very expensive boat to operate, so if we instead refer to the overall budget you mentioned:
- Fuel burn (EUR 60-100k/season): I think it certainly can be but my point is that it can also be much less. I am certain that most buyers of todays used boats spend less.
- Berthing fees (EUR 40k/season): It certainly can be and maybe it can go even higher in the Med hot-spots? Where I live it would be much less (and would include annual lift and a place on land for the winter etc.).
- Engine service (EUR 20k/season): I still think that this figure is very conservative and could be much lower. You mention some spare part costs above but also highlight that these are not annual so I'm not sure how to interpret that. However, I really don't have any detailed knowledge and regardless there will be other items needing replacement over time to be accounted for as well.
Back to OP: Of course the Mangusta is a very different boat compared to the others you mentioned. Mapism highlighted that you should be going as small as possible for your needs but with the Baia 63/AB 68 as reference points I guess you are also just looking for some space and boat-size to handle sea conditions etc.? For instance you could be getting the same 3 cabin layout in a much smaller Fairline targa 52 and other smaller boats.
The Mangusta 80 is no doubt going to be more expensive to operate compared to the other 2 but also offers a lot more boat. The question is also if it will be more expensive to own in terms of depreciation and general maintenance until you sell it. I actually have the same question/concern with regards to older boats in terms of engine hours / wear-and-tear etc. General boat-buying logics dictate that you get more value the older you go but of course there's a cutoff at some point with regards to the big maintenance items on engines etc. I know of guy who just recently purchased a Princess 67 at EUR c.550k but with 2,000 engine hours and I guess only time will tell if that is a good buy or not. I am certainly looking to become more informed on how to gauge especially engine wear-and-tear!
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