Back to the UK for a winter refit

[jfm]

Ooh, you got a wrap J?

Yup M. I've got an OEM hard top project underway and it was wrapped last week before installation in February. Silver. Was feeling a bit idle. I'll do another thread so as not to hijack this

 

[jfm]

I think Jimmy's intention is to extend the existing platform by cut and shutting a new section in. See his earlier renderings.

Yup that's my understanding too Pete, and it's a vvv good idea to get the right fit and reduce build time. So he has to take all the old teak off

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

I suggest one of these or similar to remove the old teak. I did my complete cockpit and bathing platform using one.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300Watt-M...lti-Tool-Wood-Metal-Blades-240V-/131344787917

Thanks for that, in fact it was a cordless version of that tool that we used to cut through the sikaflex that held the pods on.

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

I quite that look, Jimmy. Junk the windscreen and radar arch as well for the genuine naked streetfighter stylie

Tee-hee, I'm not _that_ committed...

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Good going Jimmy. I was in Ipswich today and looked close up at the boat in your pic above (photographed in Ipswich). The jet black hull is a vinyl wrap done by grapefruitgraphics. Its glossy black and looks fantastic. The roll of black wrap was so wide that it reaches from the gunwhale down to the little knuckle level with the pod, so there are no vinyl joints in places that you'd see. They've gone right to the waterline even at the bow. I have to say, the wrapping work is just A1 perfect (as was my own silver wrapping; pictures later). Are you sure you can't be tempted to get Grapefruit to come and stick black on Vega, and then get black or silver canvaswork from Flexicovers?

Not this time around, no - I've got enough on my plate with the engine refurb, platform extension, cockpit reupholstery and electronics refit. So hull and covers are staying blue/blue for the time being.

Black (or dark grey) would look fab, I'm sure, although is there a risk about the dark wrap 'cooking' the underlying gel coat in the Med sun?

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Not sure that Jimmy needs the old bathing platform so probably no need to remove the old teak.
However, I read on here somewhere that the best way to remove the teak was using a router set to the correct height and work in circles until you get to the edges - then remove the final bit by hand.
Just something that I read and stored away in my head.

I think Jimmy's intention is to extend the existing platform by cut and shutting a new section in. See his earlier renderings.

Yup that's my understanding too Pete, and it's a vvv good idea to get the right fit and reduce build time. So he has to take all the old teak off

Yep, it's a cut'n'shut of the existing main platform section, although we have changed the line of the actual cut to preserve the existing side flanges. This is because on removal and more precise measuring we found that the platform is very slightly flared (by 6mm) towards the stern (to make it easier to fit, I imagine), and my geometric knowledge is not sufficiently Euclidian to figure that all out with the cut in the (arbitrary) position shown in my original sketches.

The jury is still out on the new pods though, we're still deciding between a cut'n'shut or making moulds and laying up completely new pods. I would prefer the latter but it is likely to be a lot more expensive.

And regarding the removal of the old teak, it's my understanding that this has already been completed, this afternoon. I wasn't there

 

[MapisM]

the cut in the (arbitrary) position shown in my original sketches.

LOL, funny you should say that, I remember to have thought that it was clever to cut it there, to save and recycle the ladder recess and its cover...

 

[Greg2]

Blimey, it looks as though you are cracking on Jimmy.

A bit late to the VP price debate but when we did our project I used Keypart for all the stuff for our KAD 42s and found them to be fairly reasonable. Might be worth a cal to see how they compare.

 

[RogerRat]

I think Jimmy's intention is to extend the existing platform by cut and shutting a new section in. See his earlier 'renderings'.

I guess you mean Pebble Dash.

JFM, how long do you think a wrap would last? Just wondering, could you use it to protect the areas vulnerable to fading on blue gelcoat?

I think you'll find that 'Vega' is of the age to have a painted hull not blue gel. Which is why she's not faded.



Hey Jimmy, the cutting and inserting idea seems right for the platform but have you confirmed that the pods are also formed with GRP and not ABS plastic?
They seemed to be made of a totally different material to me.

Also, an add on any wrapping, black in the Med from some friends experience, was not a good idea, (ask Hurricane) apart form heating up the gel, it heats up the boat, fuel and water tanks get hot and air cond. needs to run far more, often and longer.:ambivalence:

RR

 

[KevB]

Yup M. I've got an OEM hard top project underway and it was wrapped last week before installation in February. Silver. Was feeling a bit idle. I'll do another thread so as not to hijack this

Boat wrapping on a grand scale..

Video here

I ride past HMS President most mornings. Looks amazing.

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Hey Jimmy, the cutting and inserting idea seems right for the platform but have you confirmed that the pods are also formed with GRP and not ABS plastic?
They seemed to be made of a totally different material to me.

Hi Rog, yep, they are definitely grp. Very light layup, it's not surprising that they are easy to crunch, they are especially weak where they go round the rubbing strake.

 

[aquapower]

Hi Rog, yep, they are definitely grp. Very light layup, it's not surprising that they are easy to crunch, they are especially weak where they go round the rubbing strake.

They were designed to be easily replaced in case of any damage, Fairline done this on a few models.

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

They were designed to be easily replaced in case of any damage, Fairline done this on a few models.

Yep, I imagine if you were trying to destructively remove one it would be fairly straightforward. However, the flaw in Fairline's cunning plan (in my particular case) is that they didn't keep the moulds for the pods...

 

[jfm]

Boat wrapping on a grand scale...

HMS President is quite a project but for ultra boat wrapping google image the 40m superyacht GUILTY built by Rizzardi

 

[Elessar]

HMS President is quite a project but for ultra boat wrapping google image the 40m superyacht GUILTY built by Rizzardi

yep you win. A visual assault!

 

[P4Paul]

HMS President is quite a project but for ultra boat wrapping google image the 40m superyacht GUILTY built by Rizzardi

Not sure about the rest but love the flybridge overhang and the stairways

 

[vas]

Guilty's owner is definitely guilty in many ways...
forgetting (if you can!) the awful scheme, the measly 3m tender is a joke, what were they thinking?
money and taste come to mind

V.

 

[jfm]

I quite like the wrap on guilty but I do struggle with the underlying boxy hull shape. A boat just has to be the right shape. I don't mean all boats should be the same shape because there are many different shapes that are very ok, starting with targa 40 ( we must end this drift!) but Guilty seems not to have one of them, in profile at least. Still each to their own of course!

 

[CharlieAlpha]

..... starting with targa 40 ( we must end this drift!) ......

jfm: Thread recovery dexterity at it best

 

[petem]

Yep, I imagine if you were trying to destructively remove one it would be fairly straightforward. However, the flaw in Fairline's cunning plan (in my particular case) is that they didn't keep the moulds for the pods...

Jimmy, could you make your own moulds using the existing pods as plugs?

Feels like a really good application for 3d printing. Could scan the original pods, modify (extend) them using sketch-up then make plugs that way. Probably too large / expensive for 3d printing though I imagine?