Back to the UK for a winter refit

[jrudge]

Well I am sure the boat docs will simply state it's manufactured length so I doubt you will pay any more.

Now ... Remember the really sexy hydraulic opening garage door. ....

 

[Hurricane]

Looks very good Jimmy. Keep the pods, long live the pods! More pics of that bost here:

Ahh
Now that I've seen these pics, I agree - looks great.
I, for one, would pay the extra for a bigger bathing platform so forget the resuduals - go for it - and enjoy it when you get it.
It won't just be the chair thing - you will enjoy it all the time.

 

[Door Mop]

I would extend the pods definitely Jimmy. They will look good. Here is one without the pods and looks like an after thought!
http://www.melbourneboatsales.com.a...88/2014/1267-ds-3064-Fairline-40-1_medium.jpg

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

I would extend the pods definitely Jimmy. They will look good. Here is one without the pods and looks like an after thought!
http://www.melbourneboatsales.com.a...88/2014/1267-ds-3064-Fairline-40-1_medium.jpg

That's a good find door mop, that's one I hadn't seen before. Got a link, or more photos perhaps?

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

That platform looks ideal, creating a really useful and good-looking area behind the tender garage.

One point I would make is that that particular platform was a complete remake, not a cut'n'shut as I am proposing for my boat. Also, that's a bit (maybe 100mm) bigger than the platform I've designed for mine.

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

That's a good find door mop, that's one I hadn't seen before. Got a link, or more photos perhaps?

Ok, found it. Only one other pic on that site of the platform:

That's a cut'n'shut job as well. Extended sides look carp imho. And, nil points for the tender launch system

Still, gives me something to aim at, I guess.

 

[petem]

I would extend the pods definitely Jimmy. They will look good. Here is one without the pods and looks like an after thought!
http://www.melbourneboatsales.com.a...88/2014/1267-ds-3064-Fairline-40-1_medium.jpg

I actually quite like that extension, doesn't scream afterthought to me. Anyhow, that still has the pods. I think that when MapisM suggested getting rid of the pods he was alluding to something more akin to the Targa 37...

 

[petem]

Ok, found it. Only one other pic on that site of the platform:

That's a cut'n'shut job as well. Extended sides look carp imho. And, nil points for the tender launch system

Still, gives me something to aim at, I guess.

Not keen on that one, too big.

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

I actually quite like that extension, doesn't scream afterthought to me. Anyhow, that still has the pods.

Not keen on that one, too big.

Make your mind up Pete, those two pics are of the same boat...

 

[petem]

To be honest this is what you should be targetting (Targa 38)...

What I like about this design is the corner section that joins the pod and the platform. Good that it has some decent rubbing strake built into it (I am reminded of the occasions where I bashed my pods in pontoons - they're vulnerable so you don't want to exacerbate this - again less of an issue in the Med).

 

[petem]

Make your mind up Pete, those two pics are of the same boat...

Different angles though! I'm allowed to change my mind aren't I!?!

 

[petem]

Looks very good Jimmy. Keep the pods, long live the pods! More pics of that bost here:

Is that the same boat as in JTB's pic (bootline has changed colour from green to grey)? I'll concede that it's a nice aftermarket job though.

 

[jfm]

Is that the same boat as in JTB's pic (bootline has changed colour from green to grey)? I'll concede that it's a nice aftermarket job though.

Yep, same boat, the Lisbon one. Has a sort of dark green chine stripe in all the pics as far as I can see

 

[MapisM]

I think that when MapisM suggested getting rid of the pods he was alluding to something more akin to the Targa 37...

Precisely.
I tried a quick photoshop of the pic posted by JTB, though I could only make an educated guess on the design of the upper and lower moulds, so that's subject to check how the hull actually looks under the pods.

Now, I'm not saying that the extended pods aren't nice and OEM-looking. In fact, that has neven been my point, to start with.

What I was wondering, and I still do based on these pics, is if it's worth rebuilding also the pods.
IMHO, they don't add much to the overall boat design, which in a sense the pods just make more "complicated".
And providing that the extension is properly rounded along its sides, following the rear profile, I don't think it looks like an afterthought, also with the pods removed.

Besides, from a functional standpoint, I don't see the point in having a platform which is the beamier part of the boat, because it's the area which is more difficult to fender properly when maneuvering.
Which is true for any platform of course, not just this one.
But if a platform is a bit narrower than the hull, as in the Cranchi above, when mooring along a concrete dock (which isn't so rare also in the med, e.g. when refueling), you are not compelled to have someone astern with a roving fender - as you are with a wide platform which is bound to hit the dock before the rest of the boat.
If that makes sense, not sure to have explained well what I mean....

Otoh, I fully agree that the extension job in the other pics is ugly, not only because the pods were kept in place but not made longer, which really shouts afterthought from a distance, but also because the platform wasn't properly rounded along its sides and corners.

 

[petem]

Well put MapisM.

But we're splitting straws here, no pods, extended pods, platform moulded round the pods (a la Cranchi) will all look great and will appear OEM to 100% of population. It's only über fussy people like us that will notice the difference and even then it's entirely subjective.

 

[Portofino]

I would say it now a tough call
Pods - complicated Beamier Vs less dinkable narrow beam .
Both pics By MapishM Seem equal aesthetically in my view .

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Precisely.
I tried a quick photoshop of the pic posted by JTB, though I could only make an educated guess on the design of the upper and lower moulds, so that's subject to check how the hull actually looks under the pods.

Now, I'm not saying that the extended pods aren't nice and OEM-looking. In fact, that has neven been my point, to start with.

What I was wondering, and I still do based on these pics, is if it's worth rebuilding also the pods.
IMHO, they don't add much to the overall boat design, which in a sense the pods just make more "complicated".
And providing that the extension is properly rounded along its sides, following the rear profile, I don't think it looks like an afterthought, also with the pods removed.

Besides, from a functional standpoint, I don't see the point in having a platform which is the beamier part of the boat, because it's the area which is more difficult to fender properly when maneuvering.
Which is true for any platform of course, not just this one.
But if a platform is a bit narrower than the hull, as in the Cranchi above, when mooring along a concrete dock (which isn't so rare also in the med, e.g. when refueling), you are not compelled to have someone astern with a roving fender - as you are with a wide platform which is bound to hit the dock before the rest of the boat.
If that makes sense, not sure to have explained well what I mean....

Otoh, I fully agree that the extension job in the other pics is ugly, not only because the pods were kept in place but not made longer, which really shouts afterthought from a distance, but also because the platform wasn't properly rounded along its sides and corners.

Nice photochoppery MM, thanks. Tbh I don't actually yet know how the pods are fixed to the hull (RogerRat, do you know the answer to this?) and so I don't know what the detail is underneath the pods.

The advantage of your second scheme is that it provides a nice place to locate a ball fender (useful when mooring stern-to) and obv avoids the not-insubstantial cost of modding the pods; the disadvantage is that it requires big surgery to the main platform component to get the side detailing right.

Anyway - this is all good input. Decision not yet made though.

 

[jfm]

I totally dont get the bash-the-dock thing. Beam isn't increasing but even if it were it's like saying jimmy can drive a 4m beam boat but not a 4.5, which makes no sense. My boat has this pod effect all round as do many Italian boats that use pods as exhaust covers. Look at say any Mangusta. Some boats take the teak decking along the pod top, such is the size of them. But folks generally don't crash them!

 

[petem]

I totally dont get the bash-the-dock thing. Beam isn't increasing but even if it were it's like saying jimmy can drive a 4m beam boat but not a 4.5, which makes no sense. My boat has this pod effect all round as do many Italian boats that use pods as exhaust covers. Look at say any Mangusta. Some boats take the teak decking along the pod top, such is the size of them. But folks generally don't crash them!

Think I might disagree with you there JFM (we don't all have stern thrusters)! I grazed my pods a couple of times and I see even JTB's pods bear the scars of some contact. And from what I can recall, if you spent the afternoon watching boats going through the lock at Port Solent, for example, you'll see many people bashing their stern quarter. It's simply because poor boat handlers steer to hard to port or starboard when leaving a pontoon and the stern kicks out (perhaps this effect is even more acute with stern drives)?

 

[jfm]

I don't think the pods are the problem Pete. Those skippers would just bash their hull if they had no pods.