Azimut 46

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Anyone got any views on this boat or Azimuts in general? Build quality, performance, service back-up, ease of resale? Any opinions on comparison with other 3 cabin boats like Fairline Phantom 46 or Princess 45 (current model)?

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[tcm]

2nd hand and conflicting views

1. well-known dealers in lanapoule reckon they are a bit iffy

2. Mate bought one (think his a 42, not sure) and he said it's fine, nothing went wrong, he bought 2ish years ago.

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[jfm]

There was a cheap 46, ex demo, for sale by the dealers down there last autumn. Dunno if this is same boat you are looking at. They tend to have nice cat engines. Some say build can be iffy. The 46 has very plasticy bathrooms, a phantom 46 is much nicer with avonite, wood and vacuflushers. Some used ones a few years old can have genrally iffy interior colours, very pastellypinky sort of. You might need to look around to find a goodun. I would get the phantom if there was a choice.

Remeber at that size range many seconhand will be VAT paid whereas if you buy new it can be VAT free quite easily, so bear that in mind when comparing new/used pricewise.

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[Deleted User YDKXO]

The Phantom just feels smaller especially in the saloon where the interior helm seems to dominate and you dont even get a complete C shaped seating area. The AZ46 has a couple of nice touches like a walk in wardrobe to the main cabin and a v large 2nd cabin and, as you say, nice V8 Cat motors. Agree though that the Phantom would be more of a known quantity and therefore a sensible choice
Take your point about ex VAT boats and, in fact, the AZ46 I'm interested in is ex VAT lying in Spain

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[jfm]

Yes, but of course the phantom IS smaller. The azi is badged as a 46 but is actually 48 excl pulpit, whereas the phantom is 46. The Azi has therefore bigger volume (and to prove it is an all round bigger boat, it weighs 2 tonnes more). Arguably a p50 is as close a comparison.

Yes I remeber the walk in wardrobe from one of these I looked at a while ago!

Being badged a 46 is presumably helpful in the med, eg you can stick it on a 13m berth? I mean when you arrive at the capitanerie you can say "It's a 46" without the lie detector bleeping. This can be useful. You hear of all sorts of people putting 18.5m on 15m berths and suchlike....

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[Deleted User YDKXO]

Thing is on the secondhand market they sell for similar sort of money whereas P50 is more expensive.
Not sure about putting AZ46 on 13m berth because beam is 4.36m. 15m berth I had in LaNap last year had a max beam of 4.38m or similar
Best boat I ever had for marina berthing was a Broom 37. For 2 yrs in the UK, I got away with paying for 37' but at the beginning of the 3rd yr they decided to measure all the boats after which they sent me a demand for 46'. I insisted on a remeasurement and even with me removing the dinghy and 'helping' to hold the end of the tape, it still measured 44'. However, I still paid for 37' at any visiting port!

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