Azimut 39 vs sealine 37

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I'm thinking about buying 12 m flybridge cruiser. I like Azimut 39, sealine 37 , fairline phantom 38. If I get some users opinions I would be grateful
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Resiur

Welcome to the forum, I chose the Azimut, lots of reasons but one of the prime ones was the headroom inside, I am tall and the Sealine 37 is a bit low inside, I didn't try a Fairline so can't comment. The Azimut is a fine vessel and the longer I have it the better it is. Not sure what engines the Azimut you are looking at has, mine are the CAT 3126, so far so good, easy oil change a bit tight to do the port raw water impeller and a real pain to change the starboard belts, but all the ones I took off were 11 years old so the thinking is its a job I wont have to do again very soon. I find the Azimut very good around the dock, easy to manoeuvre even in strong winds, also very good in open water with excellent sea keeping. Fuel wise flat out we get 30 knots, at cruse 21 knots on a recent 110nm trip we used 500 litres at a steady 21 knots, we did the return at a potter, 11 knots (900 rpm) and did the same distance using 180 litres.

Service parts aren't too expensive and like all things the genuine are the best choice, if you take the engine serial numbers to the CAT dealer you get the full service history, also critical you use the CAT single grade oil.

Hope the above helps, and good luck with your choice

John
 
Rosiur said:
Hello
I'm thinking about buying 12 m flybridge cruiser. I like Azimut 39, sealine 37 , fairline phantom 38. If I get some users opinions I would be grateful
Regards
Rosiur
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That's a good question and this forum has members that own all these boats. I won't answer about the boats in general as I don't want to bash anyone's boat, I will say that I work on all of these boats on a daily basis from time to time and will service maybe 3/4 of each of the said models each year some of more than others.

I like the cat and Volvo engines, but the sealine has the smaller kad series motors at 3.6 litres where the other two have larger displacement engines that are slower revving that suit the hulls more. Although you may come across some later D4 300 hp sealines at the last of build years.

For me the phantom 38 would be the one buts that's just personal.

The cats are good motors, cheap filters, impellers are scary prices.

The volvos are as ever not without there own issues but Volvo have a great dealer network in the uk to keep you going and most non stock items are next day Monday to Thursday every week.

As ever always employ a surveyor if your not familiar with what your buying and have a sea trial and engine inspection by someone like me of a dealer near to the boats location.

Happy hunting.
 
The Sealine is a bit smaller boat, although space inside is very similar.

Now the Fairline 38 Phantom and Azimut AZ39 are similar cruisers, and direct competitors. Both models should have a Bernard Olesinski hull, although Azimut do have COG a bit more forward.
The 38 Phantom was launched in 1997 and the Azimut 39 in 1998. Over five hundreds Azimut 39 where built in a long production run lasting like ten years with the last four the model being face lifted to the Evolution version.
The 38 Phantom is a bit more wider to the Azimut 39 in my book, I am saying this without looking at any specs, and cockpit space should a bit more spacious. Flybridge is also more spacious on the 38 Phantom which was one of
Fairline first models which had the C-shaped settee up top.
I remember the Fairline 38 Phantom engine room space to be pretty tight, while in the Azimut should be a bit better since they have an engine room which include the aft lazarette.

You will find the Azimut 39 with Cat 355hp engines, as I never seen any one with Volvos or smaller engines, while the Fairline 38 Phantom should have the 370hp TAMD 63P (if I remember well). I have seen a few of these with Cats 355hp as well.
They should be similar riding boats, but the 38 Phantom is prone to ride a bit bow high at its cruise of about 22 knots. I think if you go head sea the Azimut should ride a bit better at cruise for this reason, but it might also be a bit more wet.

Space inside should also be similar but IMO the Azimut feels more spacious due to the use of lighter fittings.

Whilst in these two boats you should also look at the Princess 40 which is a similar sized boat and used boat price but a bit more spacious to both the Fairline (-flybridge) and Azimut.
 
Both models should have a Bernard Olesinski hull, although Azimut do have COG a bit more forward.
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Not that it matters but I'm not sure that Olesinski worked for Azimut

The 38 Phantom is a bit more wider to the Azimut 39
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Don't think so. In my experience, Azimuts have always been a bit beamier (and felt bigger inside as a result) than Fairlines of similar length and I think the AZ39 is beamier than the P38

Whilst in these two boats you should also look at the Princess 40 which is a similar sized boat and used boat price but a bit more spacious to both the Fairline (-flybridge) and Azimut.
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Agreed, the Princess 40 is a nice boat but it will probably be more money
 
I can't give a comparison but only personal experience of the S37. With over a couple of hundred made under various names the S37 has been well tried and tested will no apparent faults in my 12 years of ownership and observations of many others.
The point made about headroom is a good one. The S37 is good upto say 6ft 2" and maybe one of the considerations for the higher S38
I've got trouble free and easy to maintain KAD43's, there were many made with Mercruiser engines which are less popular and hard to sell on.
Great family boat and I like the way it stays flat while going up on the plane. 32 knots with a clean bum with mine.
 
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Not that it matters but I'm not sure that Olesinski worked for Azimut

Don't think so. In my experience, Azimuts have always been a bit beamier (and felt bigger inside as a result) than Fairlines of similar length and I think the AZ39 is beamier than the P38

Agreed, the Princess 40 is a nice boat but it will probably be more money
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Both Olesinski and Bennett did work a lot for Azimut up until the end of the nineties.
Yes one of the few Italian builders to do so, minus Intermare who had a lot of the hull with underwater shapes stolen from eighties Azimut.

Azimut 39 beam is 4.02 m Fairline 38 Phantom = 3.82 m Princess 40 3.96 m
Got me here. You are usually right but the Azimut 39 and 42 are considered slim boats in my book.

In the med they all sell about 100k with asking standing at 120k if you go around the 2000 vintage. They are ten years boats so condition apply.

Another boat the OP should look is the Cranchi 40 Atlantique, personally not a fan of this model, but it has Cranchi usually good production standards which will show in a ten years plus boat.
 
Being a Snazi 39 owner, I am of course somewhat biased. My 39 feels somewhat bigger than the Fairline 40, parked near mine at the Marina. She is quite a bit beamier. Certainly the saloon and cockpit on the 39 feel considerably roomier. The Fairline fly is better laid out for the UK, as the Snazi majors on sun lounging. I assume 1 nm per gallon when at 22 kn, but considerably more when cruising at 9 kn which she is very happy to do. I would expect the Fairline to have a higher top speed, mine tops out at 29 kn, which I am happy with. For me the Snazi wins on style. I think the build quality is very similar, and several people have asked if Rafiki is new. Always nice to hear :)
 
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