Wansworth
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My wife wouldnt let me out the house looking like that!
Average forum boat.
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westernman
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Mine is too. But realistically I need a crane and several hours to do it.
In marinas I have always been charged for LOD and not LOA.
I did almost have a heart attack when the harbour master turned up once to measure my LOA - i.e. including just over 4M of bow sprit, but they still charged me for 15.6M and not my LOA which is 20.0M.
jamie N
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potentillaCO32
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Ijmuiden?
jamie N
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IJmuiden? No.
Baggywrinkle
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Restaurant Bunte Kuh Helgoland ... and judging by the colour of the cow between July 2019 and March 2022.
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Chiara’s slave
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Dest not go to Bucklers hard then. They wanted to charge for our 1.5m sprit even after I’d removed it, because it was there when we arrived. Potentially I could take it off under way, but it’s a bit precarious.
Lightwave395
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French bureaucracy - I changed my boat last year, my old boat was 12.05 metres long, my new boat is 11.8 metres long. I filled in the contract change form which told them the boat was a Dufour 38 Classic (11.8 metres LOA) I told them firmly that the boat was actually 12.15 metres LOA.
The marina told me they would confirm the length by actually measuring the boat but I'd have to vacate my berth and go onto a waiting list for a sub 12 metre berth despite being paid up for a 12 to 12.49 metre berth.
I ignored them when I arrived back at the marina with the new boat with a permanently rigged the Selden retractable bowsprit.
They duly sent a man down to measure it and were happy that it was 12.15 metres LOA. Honour was satisfied on bothsides and I retained my berth...
The marina told me they would confirm the length by actually measuring the boat but I'd have to vacate my berth and go onto a waiting list for a sub 12 metre berth despite being paid up for a 12 to 12.49 metre berth.
I ignored them when I arrived back at the marina with the new boat with a permanently rigged the Selden retractable bowsprit.
They duly sent a man down to measure it and were happy that it was 12.15 metres LOA. Honour was satisfied on bothsides and I retained my berth...
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jamie N
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Spot on! 24th of May 2021! Pretty much our regular watering hole on the daily journey between paperwork swap with the wind farm folks, and getting to our hotel!
On occasion our reports for the day, and permits for the operations next day, were exchanged at the bar!
SimonX
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No idea, but I know where the hat is from. Chris Tarmey, who founded it, is a good friend of mine. Used to do hotshots for him to Yarmouth and even to Aberdeen. Retired now and the company is owned by Swedes.
jamie N
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Seaeye was founded by Ian Blamire, an ex-Intersub Pilot. The company was founded in about 1987 during an oil price slump, when there was great emphasis on LCROV's (LowCostROV), which is where their original ROV, the Seaey600 was aimed at, in part 'sponsored' by HMB Subwork, with the ROV pretty much aimed at spud-can surveys on Southern sector Jack-ups, an important market for the Gt.Yarmouth based HMB. Much of the ROV was designed by Ian, with the electronics being largely done by Carl Pettit, who is still ROVing I believe.
The 600 had a morph into the Surveyor, which was basically 2 600's in parallel to give it further scope to have light weight tooling on it, then came the upgrade from 'analoque to the 'digital' versions of the vehicles, then on to Tiger, Panther etc., which are all very good and successful.
I worked with Ian from 1976 in manned subs, and was given a (very) brief course by him on SE600#08 prior to going to Iraq with it, from their basic 'lock up' factory in Fareham, which was then a very much 'hand to mouth' operation.
Chris Tarmey and Ken Cast came in later on, the 90's IIRC, with SAAB taking them over later still.
For kit, as an ROV Pilot, their stuff is very good, with the Falcon being extremely successful because of the company making as much of it unbreakable by even the most determined of ROV twat!
SimonX
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I stand corrected. I knew Chris and Ken Cast ( I think he has passed away?), odd bloke. and a few of the others. HMB had been take over/dissolved by the time I got involved with them but there were a few people in Yarmouth and Lowestoft who had been with them. Les somebody? A very eccentric chap called Peter with a huge RAF moustache and there was a company that made winches and A-Frames for them. Run by a guy called Danny.
jamie N
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"Odd bloke"; if he hadn't passed away I'd have said something inappropriate, but you're quite right. Les Sandry, who was a brilliant bloke, and my boss there and with SUBCO in Lowestoft, still a man that I admire hugely as a person, and as an ROV person.
Peter ? gave eccentricity a bad name, but did become successful with the container and A frame LARS stuff. I did have a soft spot for him, in very small doses though.
HMB were taken over by SubSea, who ultimately moved everything up to Aberdeen, where I was, and as I was one of the very few ABZ SubSea blokes who knew anything about 'eyeballs', and the incumbent tech was leaving, I got the job of being base tech for small ROV's. When they were returned from a job, I'd get them ready to go again and do everything needed, then sign the system off and quarantine it.
Happy days until a bean counter at SubSea noticed that I was invoicing my full offshore rate, rather than the 1/2 day rate onshore thing. It all ended very suddenly, but with no long term rancour either way.
Peter ? gave eccentricity a bad name, but did become successful with the container and A frame LARS stuff. I did have a soft spot for him, in very small doses though.
HMB were taken over by SubSea, who ultimately moved everything up to Aberdeen, where I was, and as I was one of the very few ABZ SubSea blokes who knew anything about 'eyeballs', and the incumbent tech was leaving, I got the job of being base tech for small ROV's. When they were returned from a job, I'd get them ready to go again and do everything needed, then sign the system off and quarantine it.
Happy days until a bean counter at SubSea noticed that I was invoicing my full offshore rate, rather than the 1/2 day rate onshore thing. It all ended very suddenly, but with no long term rancour either way.
steve yates
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It got the scowl right
DownWest
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My new, about to be launched (My dearest had a fall, so caring has delayed things a bit..) Was designed at 15'4" as that was two sheets of ply, butt jointed for the sides. Not happy with Bolger's 'square' look, It is now 17 ft and a bit. LOD; But, the boomkin for the yawl rig adds 5.2 ft so 22ft3 in. Might add a bowsprit for a foresail in light weather, so another 2 ft;
Not sure how that fits in with the AWB... ;o)
Not sure how that fits in with the AWB... ;o)
Supertramp
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Therein the problem with averages!
dunedin
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We are quite modest types over here on YM - the most common boat size being 9-11m and, at the time of posting, only just under 10% being over 13m.
Perhaps we have responses mostly from saily boats. Might be different over on the mobo forum - where I am aware of posters with boats ranging from 4m to over 24m.
There is a current thread where somebody is considering 40-50 foot (c. 12-14m) for their first boat - My First Motor Boat 40-45ft 10-15 Years Old in Meds - Advice for Newbie
But they are being advised this is much “too small for the Mediterranean” and they should be considering 50-60 foot (c. 16-18m) instead as 14 m is too small to spend any time on.
Perhaps we have responses mostly from saily boats. Might be different over on the mobo forum - where I am aware of posters with boats ranging from 4m to over 24m.
There is a current thread where somebody is considering 40-50 foot (c. 12-14m) for their first boat - My First Motor Boat 40-45ft 10-15 Years Old in Meds - Advice for Newbie
But they are being advised this is much “too small for the Mediterranean” and they should be considering 50-60 foot (c. 16-18m) instead as 14 m is too small to spend any time on.
potentillaCO32
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I think that goes down to how motorboats are being used. Most people at essex marina where i keep my boat keep them as a sort of holiday home with a nice view. At most they might trundle a few miles up river to fambridge.
I very rarely see a motorboat out at sea or on a long passage. Loads of motor fishing boats and sailing boats but very very rare to see a big leisure motorboat.
I remember when filling up with diesel the fuel guy laughed at my 40 litres which could last half a season. He said he filled up the biggest Princess boats.co.uk sell with 18k of fuel. Ouch.
A frind with a Hardy (42 i think) said he does about 1 mpg. So a simple weekend trip to bradwell costs him 500 quid. So he doesnt use it for much other than a caravan.
If you buy a motorboat as a caravan then size matters.
westhinder
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In my experience motorboats in the Med do go out of the marina, a short blast to a nearby bay, then anchor, swim, aperitif and lunch, snooze, another swim and a short blast back to the marina. Then off to the villa for swim, shower, aperitif and dinner, or if staying aboard shower, aperitif, dinner
westhinder
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Makes sense if you correlate that to the average age of the people who post here and the age of their boats
