Average forum boat.

How long is it (LOA)?

  • Under 5m

    Votes: 5 3.6%
  • 5-7m

    Votes: 4 2.9%
  • 7-9m

    Votes: 37 26.6%
  • 9-11m

    Votes: 48 34.5%
  • 11-13m

    Votes: 30 21.6%
  • 13-15m

    Votes: 13 9.4%
  • 15-17m

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Over 17m

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Total voters
    139
These recent average YBW polls have confirmed to me, that just like in most things in life, I typically hover about a third of the way up from the bottom.
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Then you are excelling at life .... a staff sergeant gave me some advice a long time ago, "never come first and never come last" ... been sticking to that as a life goal ever since.
 
So the most typical forumite would be a grumpy 71 year old with a 32 foot boat built in 2002.

Wishing they had a 44 footer built in 2023 based on the med and were 35 years old.

I can see why there is friction on the forum. At least i have the 32 footer.
Volunteer required, to crunch the numbers on the “How long have you owned your boat” thread. To give us the definitive forum profile.

And then there’s the whole question of cruising ground / home port….
 
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What about me? Do I add my 3 together? I would have the second biggest. Angus would be the big cheese. I might start a new poll. How wide is your boat?

Fold your floats in and it should be the same footprint as your average modern fat-ar$ed AWB. 👍

Fold your floats in! ;) ..... I quite like that as an expression actually - a bit more boaty than Keep your hair on! 🤣🤣🤣, but only makes sense to Dragonfly owners.
 
Presumably the newer the boat is, the less grubby the jacket is? Makes sense I guess.

33ft here (actually 34.5) and nearly 61 so I'm there or thereabouts.
 
Which boat?
The 96
The 16...
The 8..




The rowing boat is 96 inches, used least
The sailing mini keelboat is 16 ft and used most,
The motorboat is 9 yards, and i regard as a support boat for sailing..
 
Which boat?
The 96
The 16...
The 8..




The rowing boat is 96 inches, used least
The sailing mini keelboat is 16 ft and used most,
The motorboat is 9 yards, and i regard as a support boat for sailing..

The answer is in post #1 ;)


There is a poll running on boat age .... would be interesting to see what size range is typical. For those with multiple boats, pick the one you use the most.
 
Fold your floats in and it should be the same footprint as your average modern fat-ar$ed AWB. 👍

Fold your floats in! ;) ..... I quite like that as an expression actually - a bit more boaty than Keep your hair on! 🤣🤣🤣, but only makes sense to Dragonfly owners.
We’re considerably smaller than a modern fat arse boat when folded.
 
On catamarans.

In an investigation on windage (impacting anchoring) I was gifted the drawings of 2 Bavarias nominally 35' and 48' and compared with our, then, 37' x 22' 6" x 7t cat.

My conclusion was that our cat was roughly equivalent to a 47' mono hull. If I stripped off the keel of the 48' Bav and made small adjustments for the engines and mast + boom the fibre glass used for our cat 37' and the Bav were surprisingly similar - which led to the idea that a 48' Bav had a similar volume to a 37' cat, or a 37' cat is similar, windage, to a 48' mono. This completely ignores the differences in underwater profile and the impact of weight (on anchoring). In terms of windage I made allowances for targas, etc

In terms of windage the cat has greater windage, bow on, than the mono but with yawing, of both the wind and yacht, the differences in windage are not significant (or I did not think so - given all the unknowns, assumptions and my questionable assumption that a Bav is a typical AWB.

If you want to be picky there is plenty of data freely available.

Or to be simplistic multiply your cat length by 1.3 to derive an equivalent monohull though the 1.3 factor might vary with the size range or design you choose, Lagoons vs Schionnings.

I don't think this works for trimarans.


The results on the poll did raise a question with me - if the poll reflects reality why is it that at boat shows there are no yachts in the, say 33' - 36' range. call them starter yachts, or day sailers, in the 24' - 30' range (or not on show) and yachts in the 40' - 55' predominate. I'm not picking on mono hulls its the same with cats, none in the 35' range but lots in the 45' range. If I look at MoBos, at most shows smaller motor boats are numerous, though large motor boats are still very evident.

There is obviously a big market for 'runabouts', even larger ones with minimalistic accomodation, but apparently no market for small fixed keel (or drop keel) yachts (call them trailer sailors :) ).

Jonathan
 
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On catamarans.

In an investigation on windage (impacting anchoring) I was gifted the drawings of 2 Bavarias nominally 35' and 48' and compared with our, then, 37' x 22' 6" x 7t cat.

My conclusion was that our cat was roughly equivalent to a 47' mono hull. If I stripped off the keel of the 48' Bav and made small adjustments for the engines and mast + boom the fibre glass used for our cat 37' and the Bav were surprisingly similar - which led to the idea that a 48' Bav had a similar volume to a 37' cat, or a 37' cat is similar, windage, to a 48' mono. This completely ignores the differences in underwater profile and the impact of weight (on anchoring). In terms of windage I made allowances for targas, etc

In terms of windage the cat has greater windage, bow on, than the mono but with yawing, of both the wind and yacht, the differences in windage are not significant (or I did not think so - given all the unknowns, assumptions and my questionable assumption that a Bav is a typical AWB.

If you want to be picky there is plenty of data freely available.

Or to be simplistic multiply your cat length by 1.3 to derive an equivalent monohull though the 1.3 factor might vary with the size range or design you choose, Lagoons vs Schionnings.

I don't think this works for trimarans.


The results on the poll did raise a question with me - if the poll reflects reality why is it that at boat shows there are no yachts in the, say 33' - 36' range. call them starter yachts, or day sailers, in the 24' - 30' range (or not on show) and yachts in the 40' - 55' predominate. I'm not picking on mono hulls its the same with cats, none in the 35' range but lots in the 45' range. If I look at MoBos, at most shows smaller motor boats are numerous, though large motor boats are still very evident.

There is obviously a big market for 'runabouts', even larger ones with minimalistic accomodation, but apparently no market for small fixed keel (or drop keel) yachts (call them trailer sailors :) ).

Jonathan

A review of boats around 24-28ft here:-


Then of course you can always look up Beneteau First 24, First 28, First 30 and First 36!
 
A review of boats around 24-28ft here:-


Then of course you can always look up Beneteau First 24, First 28, First 30 and First 36!
If I was in the market I'd expect to buy on the basis of my evaluation perhaps filtered by examples at boat shows and you tube reviews. Its my money and I might have totally different likes and dislikes to people reviewing yachts. Where better to see them displayed than at the biggest boat show in the Southern Hemisphere

Jonathan
 
Crunched all the numbers and as a broad indication .... the average forumite is 62 years old, and has a 32 ft boat built in 1990.

So Mr. YBW Average ... you look like this according to ChatGPT (which knows nothing about boats)...

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That picture explains a lot: apparently, we are all using a clock instead of a compass, and so sail round in a circle for an hour, before ending up exactly where we started.

Every Forum thread in a nutshell.
 
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