chrishscorp
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Attempt by our Committee to change the Club rules without notifying the members
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NickC
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elsie said:
I see the Commodore is back, posting under a false identity again. Must be getting desperate.
NickC
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DB, I understand that the person from the Committee you spoke to probably didn't disclose to you the fact that they were the one who raised the proposal for expulsion in the first place so you were therefore unaware of that fact.
However the person in question is a bit of an avid Finn fan so it is looking more and more certain that your contact on the Committee in indeed the very person who raised the proposal for expulsion.
dunedin
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Dear Nick
Rather than going round and round all the same trivia each time, can I ask three specific questions which you might want to answer:
1) Have you specifically requested, verbally AND in writing, a face to face meeting with the committee of this club to discuss the matter?
2) Were you already or have you now joined the RYA as a personal member ?
3) Have you requested, verbally AND in writing, the RYA area representative to review the situation ?
If you answer YES to ALL of the above then great. Good luck with the review and report back when concluded.
In the meantime you would be well advised to desist from more postings here.
If the answer to ANY of the above is NO then I strongly suspect this club has got your measure - as somebody who will be brave in internet forums but not in terms of action in the real world. So again you may as well stop here.
I guess some others may have taken direct (non-violent) action by now - eg hiring a van / lorry, pasting the concerns on the side and parking right in the middle of the club driveway on race days. But perhaps not you.
Look forward to your answers to the above (though I note you tend to pose questions of others, but not answer them yourself)
Rather than going round and round all the same trivia each time, can I ask three specific questions which you might want to answer:
1) Have you specifically requested, verbally AND in writing, a face to face meeting with the committee of this club to discuss the matter?
2) Were you already or have you now joined the RYA as a personal member ?
3) Have you requested, verbally AND in writing, the RYA area representative to review the situation ?
If you answer YES to ALL of the above then great. Good luck with the review and report back when concluded.
In the meantime you would be well advised to desist from more postings here.
If the answer to ANY of the above is NO then I strongly suspect this club has got your measure - as somebody who will be brave in internet forums but not in terms of action in the real world. So again you may as well stop here.
I guess some others may have taken direct (non-violent) action by now - eg hiring a van / lorry, pasting the concerns on the side and parking right in the middle of the club driveway on race days. But perhaps not you.
Look forward to your answers to the above (though I note you tend to pose questions of others, but not answer them yourself)
Daydream believer
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So presumably by now you are beginning to believe that I am telling it as it happened
If it is the same person, I would suggest that he is a very mature person not ( as far as I am aware) given to vindictive nature & thinks things through carefully. He does command an air of respect among other sailors & does all he can to attract people to join in to activities. He is always prepared to offer help an advice on various yachting matters( full & model).
If it is him that started the proposal, it reinforces my opinion that you thoroughly deserved to be ejected. Your posting here does nothing to make me change that opinion
TonyBuckley
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What does that mean?
steveeasy
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Well he may well command an air of respect amongst other sailors. Not that I know anything factually that did or did not happen, But such a man of high moral standing would never have taken a side in a dispute between grown men over an oversized outboard. Further more, such a man would never expel a member that had been part of a club for 25 years, on the basis of potential allegations of disrepute.
Would a man of such high regard, have tried to find a resolution that would have been in everyone's interests.
Steveeasy
NickC
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Would such a person allow Club Rules to be ignored and Ordinary Members to be refused a vote on the issue?
NickC
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It means he tries to bully them into submitting to his view of the world.
Tim Good
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The next person to reply to this dam thread needs to be shot.
I haven't even read but its like a leech or a bad smell on my screen.
I haven't even read but its like a leech or a bad smell on my screen.
Biggles Wader
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Ahhh thats you then.Or is it me?
I challenge you to a duel------pistols at ten paces.
RichardS
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NickC
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Most points already covered earlier in the thread but quick recap
- The RYA does not regulate affiliated clubs or oversee the way in which affiliated clubs manage themselves.
- Not a personal member of RYA, joining now would not help as they wouldn't assist with retrospective issues.
- Committee have completely ignored my original response to them and six previous emails sent since.
- As far as the Committee are concerned I am expelled, I am not allowed at the club.
- deleted - can't say that, would get the thread suspended...
dunedin
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M
That's useful clarification. So it needs to be something like the lorry parked in the club driveway then
That's useful clarification. So it needs to be something like the lorry parked in the club driveway then
Lucky Duck
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M
That's useful clarification. So it needs to be something like the lorry parked in the club driveway then
Something like this perhaps?
Mariner69
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Just the thing needed. A little bit of humour.
captainpugwash88
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Oh a very civilised protest ole boy flags n things yknow
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Rictus
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If the committee have acted ultra vires, cannot you simply follow their lead and potter around the club and its environs, tinkering with your boat and going for a sail? If a complaint is made then you can have an informal chat with whoever makes the complaint and see if this whole affair can be resolved informally.
NickC
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That would present a few problems:
Obtaining access codes for entry to car park for a start, same for boat-house and starting hut.
OK I currently know what they are, I have been told them by other members but you can be sure if they found me there they would soon change them again.
Remember the rather abusive tone of their letter of expulsion.
Considering their very arrogant attitude what's to stop them removing my boat as I am no-longer a member, clamping the car or other such nonsense?
NickC
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Are you a member of a sailing club? If so does your club's rules allow your Committee to throw someone out without allowing the Ordinary Members a vote on it?
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