Attempt by our Committee to change the Club rules without notifying the members

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NickC said:
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Hey, it’s great this internet thingy, I just add Floyd to me ignore/idiot list and I don’t have to read anymore of his drivel, same for elsie. Doesn't Floyd post a lot for someone who said they were never going to post again:confused:

To those that don’t want to read my posts, just add me to your ignore list and unsubscribe from this thread, simples. Those that do wish to continue debating the matter may then to do so in a rational manor without trolls.
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And that folks is a personal insult. It will not be removed at my request, it will remain for all of you to see what kind of a man(?) you are dealing with.
 
Floyd Raser said:
And that folks is a personal insult. It will not be removed at my request, it will remain for all of you to see what kind of a man(?) you are dealing with.
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He labels anyone that doesn't agree with him. Trolls is a regular.

And he wonders why the club have kicked him out? It's pretty plain for all to see.
 
I objected to :-

"Remember that in the past we have had others such as Daydream Believer who claimed to be impartial but it later transpired he frequents a model boat club with the very committee member who instigated the expulsion in the first place. And then another forumite established that DB lives just 500yrds away from the treasurer of said club, although I accept he may not have known this and it could be just an unfortunate coincidence."

Which (I consider) infers that I am a liar & i requested that that post be deleted for that reason
But the moderator has clearly disagreed so it stays on record for all to see.
I am disappointed
 
Daydream believer said:
I objected to :-

"Remember that in the past we have had others such as Daydream Believer who claimed to be impartial but it later transpired he frequents a model boat club with the very committee member who instigated the expulsion in the first place. And then another forumite established that DB lives just 500yrds away from the treasurer of said club, although I accept he may not have known this and it could be just an unfortunate coincidence."

Which (I consider) infers that I am a liar & i requested that that post be deleted for that reason
But the moderator has clearly disagreed so it stays on record for all to see.
I am disappointed
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I can see your reasons but hang on in there; when the truth comes out I think we will all be exonerated (if that's the right word, sounds good though). Just don't expect an apology.
Wait until tonight when I get back to my own PC for the backlash.
 
Floyd Raser said:
I can see your reasons but hang on in there; when the truth comes out I think we will all be exonerated (if that's the right word, sounds good though). Just don't expect an apology.
Wait until tonight when I get back to my own PC for the backlash.
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oooh "backlash" on an boaty internet forum. how sad.
 
Daydream believer said:
I objected to :-
"Remember that in the past we have had others such as Daydream Believer who claimed to be impartial but it later transpired he frequents a model boat club with the very committee member who instigated the expulsion in the first place. And then another forumite established that DB lives just 500yrds away from the treasurer of said club, although I accept he may not have known this and it could be just an unfortunate coincidence."

Which (I consider) infers that I am a liar & i requested that that post be deleted for that reason
But the moderator has clearly disagreed so it stays on record for all to see.
I am disappointed
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DB,
Why didn’t you just ask politely, I would have happily removed your name from the offending post? It seems I am unable to edit that post now, perhaps there is a time limit.

Removing your name would not have diminished the meaning of the post in question which would have remained much the same even without reference to yourself.

However, lets be honest you didn't exactly disclose everything to the forum did you. For example you forgot to mention the fact that you frequent a model boat club with the very Committee member who raised to proposal to expulsion me in the first place!
 
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NickC said:
Seriously, anyone still believe he has nothing to do with the Committee?
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I don't think he has anything to do with the committee, who incidentally are clearly enjoying sailing far too much to come and post. Try sailing Nick, it's good for what ails you.
 
Do we all need a little wake up call. its never to late to let it all go. I assume we all consider ourselves very lucky to even belong to the forum. NickC is not happy, hes going to get more wound up every time someone tells him hes wasting his time, he knows that, why do so many people have to fuel the fire for. everyone thinks he should let it go, and you are all right. why instead of asking moderators to remove posts or the thread, call an absolute halt to the whole fall out and act with dignity from 2100hrs tonight or something like that. and really give it a go and Nick. then everyone can be happy.

steveeasy
 
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duncan99210 said:
designated as baiters of the cruelly wronged St Nickc
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Seajet said:
However seeing a few recent posts inc Duncan I can see why you go on, all power to your elbow ! :encouragement
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Duncan, just repeating what I have read in other posts, #331 I think, I haven't got time to look into everyone on here in great detail.
 
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Well I won't be insulting Nick C in retaliation after all so cool down everybody. He won't be reading this at all so there is no point, and therefore he won't reply either.

Steveeasy is now trying to stop the thread for the best of reasons now. Sorry Steve. (Blockbusters winner?)

I think know why I am being attacked in such a way; it is because I believe, I have got very close to the truth in my assessment of the situation between Nick and the club etc. And that is: that far from being bullied by the club, Nick is a very vindictive man with some kind of vendetta against the club. And it may have been started by Nick for all we know. My guess is that it probably has it's roots in a spilt pint about 20 years ago!

Read my earlier posts. I worked out the above a while ago and I, like others before and since, have been trying genuinely to get Nick to see the error of his ways by making him realise that he is less than convincing in this charade.

After he called my integrity into question I said I was going to give it both barrels. I wrote out my assessment of the whole situation (about 3 pages!) and considered posting. Just writing it out was very therapeutic but just as I was going to post it, Yachtailsa came up with an excellent post. It was again trying to get Nick to reform and I thought for time it may be working so I backed off. Yachtailsa is clearly more subtle and better at it than me!

But Nick was having none of it and then came the personal insult this afternoon. That's OK though; I'm big enough and ugly enough to take that. I've been called worse by more important people and in a more classy place than this!

It changes nothing of the situation except any sympathy I had for Nick and his problems have now been torpedoed clean out of the water.

I'll post my findings in bits. Don't show them to Nick will you?
 
Apart from normal wishings for good health and happiness I have absolutely no reason to give a rat's aspidistra about the sailing club here, or Nick C.

I starting commenting on this thread out of a sense of justice, or injustice depending on how you view it.

When someone claims to have been done wrong by another party, if those claims are in some way unfounded, false or even vindictive, then the claimant becomes the bully. Are you really sure you know who is the victim here?

All I have done is recycle the information given here from the perspective that the claimant may be in the wrong. As many have pointed out though, we haven't heard from the club on here. So what? It is naïve and arrogant to assume guilt of an absent party. Naïve because you could be completely wrong, and arrogant to think that any internet forum has any importance unless someone is braking the law. You can slag me off all day on Facebook if you like; I'll never read it and never respond so would that make me guilty automatically? Of course not.

If Nick C is completely right in everything he is putting forward then he is making a complete pig's ear of his communication. But he is an intelligent man with good vocabulary and is able to put up and pull down websites.

My doubts started when I noticed Nick's unprovoked, half-hearted repeats of his desire to keep the name of the club anonymous. Then he didn't. A bit like a child saying, "I've got something in this box and you don't know what it is!"
Yes I know; that's not a crime but it drew my attention.

Next was the similar repetition of references to the RYA rules when replying to specific questions which didn't warrant it, and of course, the voting in of the committee.
This doesn't seem to tally with the timeline: If the constitution was contravened, there has been plenty of time and there would be plenty of support for, a campaign to get an EGM. But there hasn't been. As has been highlighted, when clubs can't find people to fill committee roles, common sense has to prevail, but we don't know the full story anyway.
There doesn't seem to be any support for an EGM.

Then there's the bizarre phantom website which came, and mysteriously disappeared again after my post No.318. There was almost enough evidence on his own website to get Nick hung for treason!
On the website, the letter in post No.40 is reproduced with the author's name. Not an email address or pseudonym, his name. He is clearly peed off with Nick and I repeat: states the club has had legal advice from the RYA.
Just think for a minute what that advice that may be: (unless you think the guy's a liar because he's not on your forum?) How about: you have done everything right but as there may be future legal action (deformation maybe?) we suggest you stay off of internet forums and social media as a defence lawyer may use it against you.
Notice the club members are staying off this forum to a man. Solidarity?
They will be reading this with frustration I imagine.
There is also a pointer that this has been going on for years.
If that is what the guy is prepared to put in writing, I wonder what he could tell us off the record?
 
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Try Again then, Hey its really easy, I suspect the combined IQ of the forum members is really quite high, Clever chaps sailors(not that I am one yet) we should know better. try something positive to say to each other without spoiling it.

Steveeasy
 
RichardS said:
That's all very interesting but what about the small boat with the ridiculous outboard which was so large that the boat was unusable!

Richard
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I haven't seen the original thread about that but I have offered a view in post 366. Can you enlighten me to any information about that situation? Information which isn't sourced by NickC of course.
 
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