Attempt by our Committee to change the Club rules without notifying the members

[NickC]

What date is the Clubs Christmas Dinner? Can anyone get a ticket! Must be worth it just for the Commodores after Dinner speech!:encouragement:

Sorry you've already missed it!

 

[Seajet]

We have an exaggerated view of our importance on these forums. We're a collection of Internet chat rooms and that's not the same as real life. I suspect they are happily going about their business completely unaware of your expectation that they leap into action, register a user on the forum and mount a vigorous defence of their policies and procedures.

Now that's nonsense and you know it.

The club will be well aware of all this and even the most luddite outfit on the planet will have people registered on here.

 

[NickC]

Also note how NickC has been raising other threads and replies on other subjects and shows he is a genuine sailor.

Not sure that applies to Floyd Raser as according to his posts he bought his first boat, a Seal 22, in January and has said and I quote "This forum is actually one of the best hobby forums anywhere in my opinion.

Thank you for your kind words Concerto.

I too am suspicious that no forumites, especially no long-term ones, seem to have ever actually met either Floyd or elsie to confirm that they are real people who sail.

 

[NickC]

If it is really the case that club members are reading this they please can someone come on here and give us another perspective on both the "massive engine" debacle and the "illegal expulsion of NickC" saga.
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I believe we probably do have at least a couple of Club members/ex-members on here but clearly none who have wanted to ‘out’ themselves as such. Hardly surprising that considering how CaptainPugwash has been treated by brother Floyd among others.

Attempts to attack and label everyone who posts on here in my favour as an my alter ego don't help either.

Lets hope your message encourages some of them to post here.

 

[NickC]

are the hints that some of the people bullying NickC are employed by the same public service organisation, unless i have got that wrong.

No you have not got that wrong some within the Club who have offered me their support have suggested they have been threatened that their internet traffic and emails are being watched.

This is not directly related to that organisation but a quote from one very long-term member from early on in this saga before I was expelled:

Nick, I have given you ... and helped you out as much as I can {to expose the goings-on}. I'm sorry but you have to remember we {those living in the village} have to live among these people {as do our children}

 

[Otter]

Now that's nonsense and you know it.

The club will be well aware of all this and even the most luddite outfit on the planet will have people registered on here.

Hundreds of thousands of boating folk in the UK and about 200 actual people viewing this forum right now. I'd say you're not the sailing celebrity you maybe thought we're all big fish in a small pond here.

The club looks a pleasant family oriented place with an active Facebook community. Good to see they are getting lots of dinghy racing in. Sorry that Nick fell out with some of them, especially after so many years membership, it must be difficult for him, but clearly not for them.

 

[Seajet]

I am on here as someone concerned an injustice has been done, and you're not exactly convincing me otherwise.

If the club is so pleasant, how come NickC's thread here.

If so spiffing with dinghies, does that mean they've agreed they can't organise moorings and cruisers with any decency ?

 

[NealB]

I am on here as someone concerned an injustice has been done, and you're not exactly convincing me otherwise.

If the club is so pleasant, how come NickC's thread here.

If so spiffing with dinghies, does that mean they've agreed they can't organise moorings and cruisers with any decency ?

Ah ..... maybe the post I deleted just a while ago was relevant.

Despite Floyd's assertion (something along the lines of, "a rubbish club, in a dull part of Essex"), it's a very pleasant, quiet, rural spot to sail.

But it's very much a dinghy club. Great for a spot of racing, or pootling around a very attractive stretch of the river, or, for the more adventurous members, dinghy cruising a bit further afield.

But it's not a 'yacht' club, as such, and doesn't try to be.

 

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No you have not got that wrong some within the Club who have offered me their support have suggested they have been threatened that their internet traffic and emails are being watched.

Ah. It's the GCHQ Sailing Club?

 

[NealB]

Ah. It's the GCHQ Sailing Club?

Ahhhhhh ... now you've done it!

 

[Resolution]

we're all big fish in a small pond here.

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Old trouts?

 

[Seajet]

Ah ..... maybe the post I deleted just a while ago was relevant.

Despite Floyd's assertion (something along the lines of, "a rubbish club, in a dull part of Essex"), it's a very pleasant, quiet, rural spot to sail.

But it's very much a dinghy club. Great for a spot of racing, or pootling around a very attractive stretch of the river, or, for the more adventurous members, dinghy cruising a bit further afield.

But it's not a 'yacht' club, as such, and doesn't try to be.

So how come NickC and others got involved with a cruiser, engine and a mooring - I thought a fair few moorings were involved for a start ?

 

[TOKOLOSHI]

Sorry you've already missed it!

How did the Commodores speech go? Or is the saga to be raised and discussed at the AGM?

 

[NealB]

So how come NickC and others got involved with a cruiser, engine and a mooring - I thought a fair few moorings were involved for a start ?

Well, there's no law against members having a cruiser (or a share in one!), but the moorings, as far as I am aware, are nothing to do with the club itself, even if some club members have use of them.

 

[Otter]

Old trouts?

There's no shortage of red herrings in this thread.

 

[l'escargot]

Hundreds of thousands of boating folk in the UK and about 200 actual people viewing this forum right now. I'd say you're not the sailing celebrity you maybe thought we're all big fish in a small pond here.

The club looks a pleasant family oriented place with an active Facebook community. Good to see they are getting lots of dinghy racing in. Sorry that Nick fell out with some of them, especially after so many years membership, it must be difficult for him, but clearly not for them.

If I was a club official my attitude would be that it was nothing to do with anyone on here, it is a matter for the membership. And if I was a member I would call a club official to task if they were to start posting about club business to all and sundry on a random internet forum.

 

[Floyd Raser]

I am on here as someone concerned an injustice has been done,

Strangely Seajet, so am I. Now try using that knowledge to dislodge the predjudice with which you read my posts.

 

[Seajet]

If I'm prejudiced, how come you quote my posts with words like ' gullible ' when I say things as I see them ?

I have stated I am not involved directly and am commenting on the whole thing as it strikes me; you seem to be the one with an agenda.

 

[NickC]

OK, so where are we?
1. It appears that appeals are allowed in this club, and that NickC either made a proper appeal and was ignored, or perhaps he never made a proper appeal (in writing to the club sec)

My response emailed to the Committee, see post #40 clearly states: "Therefore please instigate the process of putting the question of expulsion of a member before the full membership." It was not sent to the Club Secretary as there isn't one.

or perhaps he did but then never turned up at the general meeting which should have resulted. I dunno, lost in the mists of time.

No there never was any meeting convened for the members to consider this matter.

2. It also appears that NickC has alter egos on here, but who's which and who wasn't is anybody's guess.

I am me and only me, if other friends have come on here to offer their support that is up to them.

3. And anyway perhaps the whole thing is one gigantic wind-up, a huge trolling episode. I have often thought that and still do.

I seem to recall that you have seen the correspondence, do you seriously think anyone would make up that much documentation just for a wind-up?

 

[NickC]

but in reality if no one wants to run the club (why else re-elect the commodore beyond the normal maximum term) then they deserve what the committee and management they get.

More to do with the fact that the members were not given a chance to stand, by my understanding there was no vote allowed at the AGM. Look at how they have got thirteen members on a Committee when the Rules only allow for four Committee members.

I also suspect no one wants to be an Officer of the Club while the current incumbents are in control.