NealB
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Yes .... we agree on that!
Attempt by our Committee to change the Club rules without notifying the members
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Yes .... we agree on that!
Strolls
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I believe Nick's position is that he's never been properly expelled.
As I recollect, Nick received a letter asking him to attend a committee meeting, and he consulted with a mate on the subject. The mate is a founder member of the club, and said "I wouldn't bother going, pal. They can't sanction you because a member facing disciplinary proceedings must be given a specific change and provided in advance with copies of all the evidence against them. That's always been the rules, since we founded the club, and it's never been changed."
Nick was not even told specifically why he was asked to attend, so didn't bother - expulsion would require the process to be adhered to.
Thus Nick's position is that the letter of expulsion he received is no more valid than if you or I had written it.
(My apologies if I've got something wrong, Nick - I'm sure you'll correct me if I have.)
However, since that time Nick did not receive a membership renewal letter, and has thus not paid the next year's membership dues. His cheque would surely not have been accepted, anyway, but it increasingly appears IMO that the expulsion has become de facto.
I doubt that, personally. Nick just doesn't strike me as that duplicitous.
l'escargot
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Floyd Raser
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There is reasonable, thoughtful & constructive posting, and then there is hijack, trolling and deliberate attempt to derail a thread.
For someone who wasn’t a member of the forum while the previous related threads were evolving, and in fact wasn’t even a member when this thread started, to write 67 posts on the same thread, that looks an awful lot like attempted hijack.
If someone has that much to say on a subject then it is only polite that they start their own thread and post it all there. You do not hijack someone else’s thread, that is simply not done, etiquette old boy.
When one particular forumite has despatched more posts than the OP, something has gone very wrong.
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I like the comment that someone posted about this particular post along the lines of "if someone has more to say than the OP then the OP himself has no more to contribute."
Floyd Raser
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Well at least we agree on something. I made the following notes too:
The club about which this thread is based has total assets of two old garden sheds and a rib.
Get thrown out of a yacht club around Cowes and you may have lost the use of a leather seated lounge where cocktails are served at your table while you enjoy tranquil views along the Solent.
Nick has lost the privilege of having a shower in a garden shed in a field, in a dull part of Essex.
If it's true that the Commodore was a shareholder in the boat:
When the Commodore gets involved in pathetic feud, it must be a bit of a rubbish club. I know he's a volunteer and there's no one else to do it but by taking the job on you are sort of suggesting you are aware of some moral standards. Even a slightly more savvy Commodore would have worked out how to get some crawler to do his dirty work for him. Of course a really clever bloke would have made the effort to nip the arguments in the bud before they escalated.
In other words, it was probably always a rubbish club and Nick is part of it's history. He was a committee member but then he became an ordinary pleb in a rubbish club.
I hope this puts some perspective on what some of you are spouting principles about.
Maybe a good idea would be to get in touch with the Landlord and tell him about the way the club is run?
If he needs the rent though, he'll be happy to leave things be.
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Floyd Raser
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I have read all the posts here (not just now) and I don't recall any mention of this mate who advised him not to go. If there was such a person then he wasn't a very good mate. A good mate would have advised him to go and gone along with him as a witness with a notepad. In my exchanges with Nick he has always expressed that it was purely his own decision not go, although his reasons were as expressed in the post above.
It looks very much like no party has followed reasonable behaviour and as I have said before, they deserve each other.
Floyd Raser
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There is none as far as I can see but I didn't start that rumour. Not that I'm distancing myself from the belief; just go back and find whoever started it and ask them.
And while you're at it you may want to avoid asking Nick where the evidence is that I am the Commodore/committee member/ (partner6). Obviously I can't be all of them I have been accused of being one of each of them at different times. Nick also suggested that I may have gone down to Burnham and knicked his chain. You may want to avoid asking him what prompted that as well.
But if you're happy being anti Floyd then do nothing and carry on.
NealB
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I am not "anti-Floyd" (where did that idea come from? ...... actually don't bother to answer that, it really doesn't matter!).
Claims about multiple identities are meaningless, to me, whoever makes them.
Your bombastic, dismissive comments about the club sound elitist, and seem to profoundly misunderstand what small clubs such as this can offer ......... but each to their own!
Floyd Raser
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Richard,
It wasn't exactly speculation, just interpretation of the facts as presented by Nick himself way back in another post around page sixty something which I haven't got the time or inclination to go and find, but it's there somewhere if you wish to have a look and see if you come to a different conclusion.
But basically the pandora was abandoned by all the owners for 18 months and the engine became a mess. But they're all good buddies at this time. Nick restores the engine (well done Nick) but it's a bit fragile. Another shareholder takes the boat out and the engine gives up the ghost. Nick is pissed off but supplies another engine.
Now comes the twist, brace yourself: Either someone says something to Nick, or Nick assumes something, but the assumption is that someone is allowing all and sundry to use Nick's engine. That's the grey area but Nick is so pissed off he padlocks his engine up. So now Nick is actually saying "That's my engine and it's not for general use" metaphorically. That's true as far Nick's own post tells it.
This is my assumption:
The other shareholders become enraged at this and take their infantile revenge with the monster engine and a lot of stupidity. In other words: Tit for Tat.
BUT: None of this takes into account words: emails and verbal exchanges and their respective inflections. But the evidence of Nick's shifting versions of the truth and attitude toward criticism do not reflect well on him.
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Floyd Raser
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So if multiple identities are meaningless to you, why bother asking the question in the first place? If you hadn't asked I wouldn't have paid you respect of a reply.
Anti Floyd - maybe I'm getting paraniod.
Elitist - probably, hard to express the opinion without sounding like that. We're not talking about small clubs; we're on about ONE club, which happens to be small. Small clubs and their worth are another thread.
NealB
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Sorry, I should have said, "unsubstantiated claims of multiple identities, offered with no evidence to back them up, are meaningless to me, whoever makes them".
If good, verifiable evidence were provided, they'd mean something (quite a lot, possibly)!
I know exactly which club this thread is about. It's about a mile from my house, and, as I've said before, I was a member until two years ago.
Floyd Raser
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But is it OK for Nick to carry on making claims of false identity or not?
NealB
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No, of course not. The same standard applies.
steveeasy
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Well I find it quite warming, if not slightly amusing , we are all still here and catching up in what is a much better fashion. Best wishes to all including to NickC and Floyd, . We all have a common interest after all.
Steveeasy
Steveeasy
Floyd Raser
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Thank you Steve.
l'escargot
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Perhaps if the mods moved it to the lounge, where it would be more appropriate - I don't really see that it fits into the category of "Share practical, hands-on information" - the OP might lose interest a bit if it was away from the public gaze in the registered users area...
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Perhaps the committee of the club should write to Time Inc complaining about potentially libelous claims about the club and members.
That would get the thread removed. As I understand it, from many threads I have read.
That would get the thread removed. As I understand it, from many threads I have read.
Seajet
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Seeing as NickC has gone to some pains to ensure the club is not identified, and has asked anyone making this too easy to modify their posts, I cannot see the club - whichever it is - getting away with that one.
For those moaning about ' ooh it's a long thread ' I would say it IS of interest or indeed concern to sailors everywhere not just in that locality, and I for one feel that NickC has a genuine grievance of a type which would really upset any sailor.
So again, if people don't want to see a long thread, then don't click on a long thread.
For those moaning about ' ooh it's a long thread ' I would say it IS of interest or indeed concern to sailors everywhere not just in that locality, and I for one feel that NickC has a genuine grievance of a type which would really upset any sailor.
So again, if people don't want to see a long thread, then don't click on a long thread.
Floyd Raser
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As I said before: gullible.
What about joining the club then Seajet?
What about Nick's insults of the committee members on here, his accusations of false identity and misrepresentation, and accusations of theft (a criminal offence)? This is the person you are chosing to stand with without any suggestion that Nick may be bending the truth. You've swallowed his story hook line and sinker without hearing from the other side. I hope you don't, or never have had people working for you. Poor sods.
As for judging a person by the effort they put into something: Someone may put all their effort into the trouble of calling you long distance from the far east to tell you your pc is infected with a virus (probably an Ultra virus from this thread!). When they do, at least you'll know by your own standards that they must be genuine, or they wouldn't have gone to all that trouble would they? Just give them your bank details and you'll be fine.
Daydream believer
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No he has not. - If you had followed the thread you would realise your statement is untrue
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