Atlanta 25 info

[Chaplin]

Sorry for the delayed replies. I an new so they are being moderated and take a while to show up.

The engine has been identified as a Petter AB1WM. It has/had a sacrificial anode so that will hopefully be a good sign but it is coming out and being stripped down/rebuilt. I see this as an interesting project in itself and keeping this old engine going will be quite satisfying. I may end up installing a bracket for an outboard in case of failure though.

I am also very keen to look at converting it to electric. I have read some interesting write ups about PM motors and their ability to recharge themselves by the spinning prop when under sail. This could be a good project for the future also.

If this project only lets me teach the kids a few things about engines, woodwork, painting etc. then it is worthwhile. Hopefully we will end up with a boat we can learn to sail on.

It has also been identified as a Hurley 24/70 rather than an Atlanta 25. Interestingly the mast compression problem has been solved by 4 Bamboo posts. The inside was obviously kitted out in a kind of polynesian look with driftwood styled internal walls. It may have looked nice at one time but not sure it would if restored.

 

[Greenheart]

I am also very keen to look at converting it to electric.

If you wanted to provoke a nay-saying response, you've done it there. :biggrin-new:

Personally, I'm strongly in favour of working towards electric auxiliaries, but I suspect this crowd will say it makes the Petter look like a superb bit of kit.

No disrespect intended towards those who doubt it. Electric power is a very limited option for auxiliary because a sensible weight of batteries will only get you a couple of miles from your mooring, and the common notion of sailing today involves such reliance on the engine, that electricity isn't up to it.

But it presents an interesting situation for you...you can add a transom-mounted outboard, which you'll want anyway while you play with the Petter...

...and if the Petter disappoints, you can experiment by filling its space with an assemblage of electric motors, batteries, chargers and current-controllers.

I say, go for it, as long as you definitely also fit the outboard. Then you can enjoy the yacht as a cruising boat without going far wrong if the inboard fails.

 

[Minchsailor]

Go for it, but as others have said, get it into a sailable condition rather than producing a 'perfect' boat.

For an engine at a reasonable price try www.marineenterprisesltd.co.uk - you may get an inboard for not much more than an outboard.

 

[Greenheart]

Weird. I duplicated my own quote.

 

[jwilson]

Go for it … I now sail quite an expensive modern boat but many years ago I'd have sold my soul for a Hurley 24/70, with or without a functioning inboard engine. Actually they weren't built at that time - they are a newer design than when I cruised a lot of miles in smaller boats with a little Seagull as auxiliary power.

 

[crown22]

Good luck with your project.I bought a £2,900 Colvic Sailor 26 off Ebay and spent £900 moving it from Windermere to Glasson Dock.Working on it this Winter before hoping to move it to Menai Straits.I think where you will sail is a factor.In the early nineties
I sailed a £1500 Jaguar 24 with outboard motor on Loch Fyne without mishap but if you are in an area with strong tides and maybe other hazards that will test you and your crew and your boat more so.Great that you have an offspring that wants to be involved-I wish I had.Not many young people coming into sailing nowadays all my own opinion of course and waiting to be corrected.Good Luck

 

[wombat88]

The inside was obviously kitted out in a kind of polynesian look with driftwood styled internal walls. It may have looked nice at one time but not sure it would if restored.

This sounds like fun and maybe should be preserved for posterity, grass skirt and lifejacket in a strong breeze conjures up some images... 38 coats of varnish should do the job but don't, just don't, ask this forum which is their favourite varnish.

 

[jant]

I hear what your saying. I am going into this with my eyes open.

The restoration is something we are looking forward to as much as the sailing, good father daughter time, We have the boat so there is no going back now and we're looking forward to getting cracking.

I have done various non boat related projects before so well aware of how they can mount up and are usually anything but cost effective. The sense of achievement went you eventually get them driving/flying/floating though is the thing I enjoy.

I am interested in the outboard conversion option and would like to hear from anyone that has done similar on one of these or a Hurley 24/70. I take it the transom needs beefing up a fair bit.

+1 Go for it Chaplin, i have done 2 restorations ( both lost me money!) but the joy education and time with mates helping was a real plus, mind you i was younger then! Re the engine talk to established engineers such as French Marine. They often have "old" engines sitting in "old" sheds.

 

[Chaplin]

I think where you will sail is a factor.

It is based in Rye and I hope to sail from there.

It's great my daughter is on the same wavelength as myself. My other interest, and the reason I have not taken up sailing until now, is aviation and she enjoys flying also as well as helping me build my airplane. Sailing has a lot of similarities with flying and I know many that enjoy both. My older son however has no interest at all in sailing or flying only computers.

i have done 2 restorations ( both lost me money!) but the joy education and time with mates helping was a real plus

There is definitely a mindset for this kind of thing. Some people see a neglected machine of whatever nature and think it worthless scrap. Others have a urge to rebuild it and restore it to it's former glory. Each to his own I suppose.

This sounds like fun and maybe should be preserved for posterity, grass skirt and lifejacket in a strong breeze conjures up some image

The bamboo supports will be staying. It's wonderfully strong stuff, better than wood in compression and steel in tension. The driftwood panelling will be replaced by solid wood however and i'm currently trying to visualise how to do this without the whole thing ending up looking like a floating Chinese takeaway.

 

[Greenheart]

The inside was obviously kitted out in a kind of polynesian look with driftwood styled internal walls. It may have looked nice at one time but not sure it would if restored.

It might possibly attract the kind of crew James Wharram's boats were famous for...