As a Sailor,I cant understand

TheBoatman

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Why some sailors race?

From the owners point of view it cost a hell of a lot more than ordinary sailing, you have to stuff food and drink down the throats of God knows how many gorillas. Very often the boat gets broken under huge strains, when not racing it can barely be cruised because there's bugger all down below save sail bags and a single burner primus. The boat seems to be permanently wet; most language used aboard doesn't seem to appear in the Oxford dictionary. Whilst the owners/helms seem to know the close quarters ColRegs off by heart they immediately know not one once the gun as gone because "they are racing".

From a crews point of view everybody seems to be shouting at you all of the time, the only time you get a minute to yourself you have to go sit on the weather rail with yer feet dangling in mid air. The poor sod sent up forward needs to be at least an Olympic class swimmer. No sooner than you get one sail set some bugger wants to change it for something else and with all this jumping around most crews have permanent heartburn or indigestion<s>.

No guys REAL sailing is about getting aboard, turning the gas on first to get a brew going, leaving the mooring under engine so that you charge the batteries and heat the hot water, setting the sails, turning on the auto helm and asking it (nicely) to talk to the GPS chart plotter, going back to the sails to have a play just for something to do whilst you finish your tea and add a decent break before you open a beer. Then settle back with beer in hand and keep a decent lookout all round and hopefully doff your cap to any other like mind person that happens to pass within hailing distance. Finally you just sit there contemplating this nice peaceful existence whilst dreaming of the good meal your going to have ashore at your final destination, will it be Italian, Chinese, a steak or maybe Duck with black cherry sauce and all the trimmings.

Racing,,,, nahhhh,,,, give me cruising EVERYTIME.


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Thanks Peter, reminded me why I gave it up. And it wasn't even my boat!

Things you missed out:
• Sailing across to France, going around a mark and coming back again, without even stopping for an assiette de fruits de mer.
• Translating Oz to French, and vice-versa (there's a rule that says that at least one Frenchman and at least three Aussies shall be aboard every racing boat)
• Setting out in weather which would have any sensible sailor resting both elbows on the bar in the Dog and Duck.
• Skiving off work on a Friday lunchtime to get down to the boat for a Friday evening start, with the prospect of no sleep for 48 hours
• Driving back on Sunday, barely able to keep your eyes open
• Kipping in the car down at Sleepy Hollow, Fleet Services
• Having to be polite to some testosterone-crazed lump of muscle and suet because the skipper reckons he's the best mainsail trimmer in captivity
• Waiting in the club for your turn in front of the protest committee while the rest of the crew are busy chugging them back in the pub.
• Sleeping on sailbags because a boat that needs to be raced by 12 has only got bunks for 8
• Farting about with a kedge, when there's a perfectly good engine under the cockpit floor


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Hell, Don't ever seem to remember it as bad as all that on the Round The Island Race. Did have a hang over once, or was it twice?

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and then there is the satisfaction of completing a passage under sail - a truly unusual event when cruising. At the same time you get to really concentrate on extracting the best from the boat, the weather and the tides. Oh - and the crew too!

Not all boats run at high volume - some of the sharper boats run quite nicely on a quiet boat philosophy, so it isn't mandatory to shout - just the same as cruising in fact, as I do believe some cruising skippers have been known to elevate their voices to their crews.

Dont forget that not all racing is overnight or cross Channel stuff - the majority is either short passages or round the cans.

Having been blessed with a wife and family who are not that keen on sailing, at least racing allows me to get my sailing fix in short doses, and then do other things with the family.

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As an ardent (nearly) ex-racer, I have just bought roller furling and a cruising chute. I suspect that like qsiv, I will continue to enjoy racing on someones elses boat (thanks Chris!), but go lovely creek crawling with a barbecue and bottles at all other times.
Best of both worlds. Teaches you the bad habits of both too.
NOTE: Nobody forced you to go racing, and there are ALWAYS boats undercrewed if you want to do it.
PS Lynn asks if you have the phone number of the Testosterone crazes Muscle and Suet Bloke.

Jim

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I love cruising too but let's admit it; when another boat is heading in the same direction as yourself, do you not pay that little extra bit of attention to heading and sail trim? I get great satisfaction when I overtake another boat just to know that the boat is being sailed efficiently. As for not turning on the engine (QSIV), it all depends on one's objectives. If I am heading out to the islands I would like to be sure to arrive in time so that the family can have a swim on the beach before it gets too late. I have absolutely no problem with switching it on in this case.

John

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abiding memories of NECRA keelboat racing out of Blyth (Northumberland):-

swilling abt for hours just outside entrance to harbour with no wind and sun beating down, skipper refusing to put motor on because 'we'll lose points', whilst v. young, then, daughter sitting up in pram and waving and rapidly getting gruntled as no sign of getting any nearer

staple diet of baked beans

skipper who'd make capt queeg seem normal

trying to sleep in quarterberth in steel hulled boat without sleeping bag touching hull and getting soaked - impossible

getting frozen fart faced about new french 'caravan' boats which wiped us out downwind and then refused to race upwind ...


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i keep a laser on a lake for the times when it's too grim to go to sea. an hour blasting round the cans getting hot & knackerd, hot shower and a restorative in the bar - nothing to beat it.

as for hours beating into waves offshore when a sensible sailor is securely moored and snugged down below with a book - no way!

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G'day Peter,

I can't understand how people learn to sail properly without racing: In most race fleets you will find another yacht the same as your own or one that has the same or very close rating, only now can you test your skills and gained knowledge, by racing that craft in all weathers and sea conditions. Only then can you be sure you have a better knowledge and skill than the opposition.

It does not have to be single burner and wet sail bags only below decks to race, that's what the handicap is all about, based on actual results over a full season and adjusted as you improve in each event.

We had a couple of rules on board: No shouting, always try to take a newbie out, even they only looked after the backstay, have plenty of good food and drink on board, not, by the way provided by the skipper. All crew to be involved in the pre race preparations and after race clean up.

We raced for many years and managed to fill a couple of display cabinets with trophies, though I must admit it does seem odd to risk a yacht worth several tens of thousands to win a torch with a flat battery; but would do it all again if the chance presented.

One more thing, the camaraderie amongst racing yachties is like no other sport I have ever been involved in, a great bunch of thoroughly pleasant helpful people who have the same objectives, to sail as fast as you can in the prevailing conditions.

Avagoodweekend...



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Re: So that\'s what Necraphilia is all about! nm

hmmm .... bit of rodgering to a frozen chicken instead of baked beans .... could have happened with some crew especially if alternative is well known pie in tin cans ........

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Ken
I can gather from your post that you have "binthere doneit"?
Aren't you glad you gave up so that you could truely enjoy sailing as it should be.

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Truth is .. Ken got so fat he was chucked off the boat as a liability .. final straw was when boat grounded on Brambles after finely calculating the clearance .. forgot to take into account his own weight!

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G'day Brian

Don't get me wrong?

I love racers because they drink loadsa booze which helps the clubs coffers and keep me on my toes because I have to arrange all of the safety coverage at our clubs open events.

I only have 2 probs with these guys;

1. Once the gun has gone their total lack of regard for other water users and the colregs in general. As far as I'm aware there is no colreg that says because I'm racing all other regs are to be disregarded, I spend countless hours on the VHF /phone to ports authorities / other owners trying to placate them because they have been "cut up" by a racer.

2. As I said in my original post, why jump about all over the place just to end up with indegestion<s>

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Given you're a Medway man, I am surprised you missed one of the most important reasons to race, namely - gives one somewhere to go! C'mon... going up to Stangate Creek, or adventuring to Queenborough for the weekend surely gets to be a bit boring after n weekends??

Now, join in the racing, and you have a REASON to belt up to Queenb. or.. dare I suggest... even out and about the buoys in the estuary!!

WIthout racing, being based in Medway must be..... ?

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Re: Nearly right

Mr Twister, did you or did you not run a racing yacht aground on the Brambles after calculating you had ample (sic) clearance?

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Re: Nearly right

Yes.

I was using the previous year's tide tables.

That mistake cost me several rounds of drinks.

I still maintain it was the owner's fault for leaving an old set of tide tables aboard.



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