Argh! Headlining

[sparerooms]

I've removed the old foam backed vinyl and I want to replace with carpet.

I've been looking at a few different options
Has anyone used van lining carpet before (veltrim)?

I'm a bit worried about the condensation but I really don't want to use vinyl again.

Does anyone have carpet lining on their boat? Damp or not?

Thanks in advance hopefully

 

[V1701]

Replaced the vinyl with some inexpensive carpet on the two sleeping cabins on my first boat, worked well enough & I lived on board through the winter with no real problems. Some was glued to thin ply boards & then attached to battens & some was glued to the bare hull. Watch yourself with that spray contact adhesive if you go ahead though it's nasty stuff, ventilate well & wear a suitable mask. I'd have thought the Veltrim would be easier to work with than ordinary carpet...

Found a picture:

 

[UncleAlbert]

I carpeted both 1/4 berths on my Centaur with very cheap ribbed Beige carpet form Carpet Right, I think it was about £1.50 per sq mtr about 4 years ago. Ceiling(?) was ply panelling covered in carpet and sides are direct to the hull. No condensation experienced and its warm to the bare skin touch. Used the spray adhesive and as mentioned by others could not spend too long working as it made me 'high as a kite' Worst part of course is getting the old stuff off and out.

Sorry dont have any pictures

 

[salar]

If you buy van carpet go for the stretchy type which takes compound curves very well. The only problem with van carpet is the colours are all fairly dark. Marine lining carpet is available in much lighter shades but is not so stretchy. I am lining the upper sections in foam backed vinyl in white and the hull sides in van carpet in barley colour.

 

[Hydrozoan]

Have some on walls of berth - no condensation issues.

 

[Hadenough]

I've just re trimmed the lockers on my other boat with Veltrim van carpet. When you get it you will think what the F is this stuff? It looks like cheap felt on the roll. In fact it is brilliant to use, sticks easily, cuts well and is VERY flexible to go round curves mouldings and stuff. As for insulation, forget it! It is only about 2mm thick and may disguise but not solve condensation promlems.

 

[GrahamM376]

Hawke House sell a cream coloured self adhesive ribbed carpet type lining, used it in some lockers on to grp hull and plywood and, 10 years later, it's stuck like the proverbial to a blanket. http://www.hawkehouse.co.uk/linings/self-adhesive-linings/p80-cream-self-adhesive-carpet-lining.html

 

[salar]

I've just re trimmed the lockers on my other boat with Veltrim van carpet. When you get it you will think what the F is this stuff? It looks like cheap felt on the roll. In fact it is brilliant to use, sticks easily, cuts well and is VERY flexible to go round curves mouldings and stuff. As for insulation, forget it! It is only about 2mm thick and may disguise but not solve condensation promlems.

I have some closed cell foam from Hawk House to line the hull before I stick the carpet on. That should help.

 

[sparerooms]

Thanks for all your input
I looked at that self adhesive carpet from hawkehouse, looks good. I'm just worried that the thickness would make it tricky to go over glassed in bolts and bumpy bits

I'm thinking the veltrim is sounding good at the moment, at the end of the day it is only to smarten up and cover up flakey paint work

 

[The Dogs Pollacks Brother]

I used the carpet that the kids line their car boots with when they set up those big noisey speaker boom box affairs. Its on Amazon under "Acustic Carpet" or something like that. £45 got me more than enough to do the cabin and cockpit of our Colvic. As mentioned before though, the colours are dark.

 

[ianj99]

I've just re trimmed the lockers on my other boat with Veltrim van carpet. When you get it you will think what the F is this stuff? It looks like cheap felt on the roll. In fact it is brilliant to use, sticks easily, cuts well and is VERY flexible to go round curves mouldings and stuff. As for insulation, forget it! It is only about 2mm thick and may disguise but not solve condensation promlems.

+ 1. Did my forecabin last year and have some light fawn coloured for the saloon and wheelhouse. Sticks well with spray adhesive and the stretchy nature makes fitting much less of a skilled job.

 

[BurnitBlue]

I would not use carpet because the allergy producing micro critters can infest the material. They are similar to the nanno sized bugs that make cat fur allergic to some folk.

Carpet is tolerable in a house because regular vacuum cleaning is used frequently.

I have no experience of this personally because I am not allergic to animal fur or its lookalike stuff. I have been told this by other people though. I am referring to the shaggy stuff, not the non slip carpet mats that are used in the workplace.

Just saying, really

 

[bigwow]

Martrim have a huge stock of lining carpet

http://www.martrim.co.uk/

A hair dryer is handy to get it to fit round curves etc.

 

[sparerooms]

I've been looking at Veltrim on harrisonstrimsupplies.co.uk seems cheap enough

 

[sparerooms]

I would not use carpet because the allergy producing micro critters can infest the material. They are similar to the nanno sized bugs that make cat fur allergic to some folk.

Carpet is tolerable in a house because regular vacuum cleaning is used frequently.

I have no experience of this personally because I am not allergic to animal fur or its lookalike stuff. I have been told this by other people though. I am referring to the shaggy stuff, not the non slip carpet mats that are used in the workplace.

Just saying, really

Bit like bed bugs at home
I'm still alive

 

[Stemar]

... at the end of the day it is only to smarten up and cover up flakey paint work

If you mean the paint is flaking off, it'll have to go before you do anything, or nothing will stay on.

 

[planteater]

I've used Veltrim as a quick, cheap makeover in the cabin and would highly recommend it. Next summer I'm going to replace my manky headlining with the stretchier Megastretch. I've got some samples and it looks fantastic - it's lightweight and will easily take a compound curve. On the downside it's thinner and more expensive than Veltrim.

 

[sparerooms]

^^yeah Steve I've scrapped all the loose paint off snd I've started sanding back ready for the new.

^ why use megastretch if veltrim is so good planteater??

 

[PuffTheMagicDragon]

I am not familiar with the trade names that are being mentioned but I have used non-woven carpeting on my previous boat, Centaur CR1279. I glued the carpeting onto three panels of 3mm plywood (ordinary, not marine) using contact adhesive as is used for Formica and similar laminates. The carpeting was turned over the edges and onto the back for around 30mm or so. The two side panels overlapped the central one. All panels were screwed to wooden strips glued to the fibreglass that was exposed when the foam-backed vinyl was removed. Since my carpeting was light grey I used small stainless screws and their heads were not really visible unless one was standing right underneath them. The system worked for me and was copied by many on the Westerly Owners Yahoo Group. No signs of condensation and the 10mm air gap caused by the wooden strips provided very good insulation.This was what the finished headlining looked like:

 

[stav]

Carpet based material sounds good where you can use it. Having a westerly I have tackled falling down head lining (thankfully only in the aft cabin as the rest was done properly before I bought the boat). So trying to cheat I have reused the old vinyl by cleaning all surfaces as best I can then treating the dusty surface with watered down PVA then using a combination of doubled sided tape and spray adhesive to fit new foam. Fitting foam to deck head/sides first then vinyl to that seemed to work ok. Only offered as a possible alternative, not saying better /more durable etc.

Good luck with it.