Birdseye
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Spot on.
Are you allowed to sleep in your boatyard?
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Spot on.
dylanwinter
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That would make sense
I can see why a generally unenforced rule might be useful to cut slack to well behaved out of towners but the rule can be used against boat squatters and hobos
I moment on the web would show that I am the former and not the latter
however, rules are rules and I shall obey them and sleep on a boat in the next estuary along - some geographical distance between work and recuperation is not always a bad thing. I shall become a commuter
it is best to roll with local custom - it is a commercial port after-all
as an outsider it is hard to tell the difference between an enforced rule and an unenforced rule.
D
I can see why a generally unenforced rule might be useful to cut slack to well behaved out of towners but the rule can be used against boat squatters and hobos
I moment on the web would show that I am the former and not the latter
however, rules are rules and I shall obey them and sleep on a boat in the next estuary along - some geographical distance between work and recuperation is not always a bad thing. I shall become a commuter
it is best to roll with local custom - it is a commercial port after-all
as an outsider it is hard to tell the difference between an enforced rule and an unenforced rule.
D
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jerrytug
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Dylan could you just clarify what are 1) "Hobos" and 2) " Boat Squatters" please, how would I spot them, what is the difference between them, and what danger do they threaten?
I wouldn't like anybody to get the impression that you are a tiny-minded Daily Mail reader! cheers Jerry
Lakesailor
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Phew! This new Polo Dylan has got must be a thirsty bugger. Unless you know of some B&Bs with £10 a night rooms.
lpdsn
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I guess there is a lesson in psychology here. Many people will discreetly turn a blind eye to the breech of a rule they can't be bothered to enforce, but few will go out on a limb to do so. And there's always the occasional officious B.
So don't ask permission, don't tell them you're doing it and don't draw attention to yourself. I find the hardest part is coming back from the supermarket with groceries, where it is pretty obvious what is going on to anyone who chooses to be observant.
On the other hand, my previous insurer (GJW) had a rule about how many nights I could spend aboard on the hard without activating a liveaboard clause (and an increase in the premium presumably). Knowing I would breach the rule beyond the level of plausible deniability, I actually told them about the big job on the boat I was doing and that I would have to spend a few more nights on board. They OK'd it.
dylanwinter
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I tried
I have kept boats at lots of different boat yards over the years - I did the keep quiet and be discreet thing, don't leave the boat to go to the pub after dark, just stay below with the curtains closed ,,, but I left the car discretely parked in the yard and you could see the boat lights through the curtains...
... I did not hide in the dark. It is a shame to have to do the commuting but it is only six nights if it all goes smoothly
D
I have kept boats at lots of different boat yards over the years - I did the keep quiet and be discreet thing, don't leave the boat to go to the pub after dark, just stay below with the curtains closed ,,, but I left the car discretely parked in the yard and you could see the boat lights through the curtains...
... I did not hide in the dark. It is a shame to have to do the commuting but it is only six nights if it all goes smoothly
D
Bru
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Made I curious so I dug out my GJW policy and perhaps a bit of clarification would help ...
It's not sleeping on board on the hard that's the issue there, it's using the boat whilst it is laid up, whether ashore or afloat. As your (theoretically*) getting cheaper insurance because the boat is only used for the "season" and "laid up" during the winter, they understandably expect that you aren't using the boat other than for essential maintenance during the lay up period!
I must admit that this was a contract term that had kind've passed me by and one that in the past I've been in breach of (spending more than two nights on board during the lay up period whilst carrying out maintenance on the boat). Not an issue for me now*
* Two years ago I asked GJW for year round commission and got it at no extra cost
Blueboatman
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Big visible padlock on the companionway, cardboard cutouts to fit the windows, ladder taken inside, pee in a milk bottle, access thru the forehatch, no noisy shagging or snoring
.... Allegedly.
And don't do emails , just ask the head honcho face to face at a sensible moment, explaining the duration and weather agin ya and tight time frame , and Wells harbour and does his wife like nature DVDs ....
Of course if you was a midget slimJim too, perhaps saw your legs off below the knees and keep the lowest profile ever?
Trouble with big boats , everyone thinks you're minted.. B n Bs? Pah!
Best of luck , splash n go.
.... Allegedly.
And don't do emails , just ask the head honcho face to face at a sensible moment, explaining the duration and weather agin ya and tight time frame , and Wells harbour and does his wife like nature DVDs ....
Of course if you was a midget slimJim too, perhaps saw your legs off below the knees and keep the lowest profile ever?
Trouble with big boats , everyone thinks you're minted.. B n Bs? Pah!
Best of luck , splash n go.
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paul-essex
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if he sees you sleeping on the boat how is he going to stop you a court order ? you wold be fitted up and gone by the time it was served surly
JumbleDuck
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Scruffy young people with dreadlocks living in old, grounded fishing boats?
JumbleDuck
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Once again, Dylan will be entirely dependent on the goodwill of the yard to get his boat launched. Recent experience elsewhere suggests that when you are in that position, you keep on the right side of the yard, both face-to-face and online.
freddy the frog
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keep your head down
as i said before stay on it and be quite about it rules are made to be broken, jobsworths
as i said before stay on it and be quite about it rules are made to be broken, jobsworths
Rigger Mortice
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Depends how you cost out a car. 40p a mile is not a lot but one can make a case for virtually any cost you want. Cost accountants earn their living from the allocation of costs.
Lakesailor
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I think Dylan, and most people, regard a private car as a resource to be used. Once the standing costs are covered it's just fuel.
I would think Dylan's car will do 40 mpg. £10 for the trip.
I would think Dylan's car will do 40 mpg. £10 for the trip.
prv
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Formule1 used to be 30DMs a night when I was in Germany, that was about a tenner. But then again, the bed is made of concrete (literally, though it does of course have a mattress on top) and the loos are weird self-cleaning fibreglass pods in the corridor. They save money by having practically no staff, just a couple of cleaners during the day, so you book in via a touchscreen terminal next to the front door.
I guess they're probably a bit more these days.
Pete
Searush
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Flights to/from Germany may eat into the cost differential a tad & the 2 hours before take-off nonsense would eat up half a day.
VicS
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But Littlehampton is in the Uk. No need to fly via Germany either from Dylans home on Botolph Clayton or from the boat he is thinking of kipping on in Chichester.
Lakesailor
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Cheapest I could spot was a shared room in the YHA, Littlehampton. £15 per night. But I bet they don't like you cooking in the room 
VicS
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Cheapest I could spot was a shared room in the YHA, Littlehampton. £15 per night. But I bet they don't like you cooking in the room
Esp if its on a dozen candles under an old flowerpot!
chinita
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Cheapest I could spot was a shared room in the YHA, Littlehampton. £15 per night. But I bet they don't like you cooking in the room
Could be good value.
I doubt it would be shared for a second night after Dylan has delivered one of his inspirational bedtime lectures
"When I was at school we had to get up half an hour before going to bed...........wash in a thimble of icy sea water.........given half a bowl of cold porridge.....blah, blah........the trouble with the youth of today is..........blah, blah,..........jetskis.........blah.........well, well, engine....beast..........ZZzzzzzzzzzz......snort......ZZzzzzzz........dribble.........Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
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