Are We A Different Breed??

Re: You want a war?

Well I did'nt know it did'nt have a bar did till i went in there. So bloody high and mighty most of'em. Apart from the bar, what do most clubs offer. Well they make the rules that all the raggies have to follow. Why else would you have a staff bigger than most government departments.

What I want to know, is if they are so exclusive. Who interviewed the first member? It wasn't that exclusive then was it.

Another thing. If these raggies are that much better! than stinkies. Why is it that I pull loads of these seamen off the mud. Its not really fair to have ago at all of 'em. Cos there are some decent ones out there. Only they're not the ones making all the rules and noise and walking around with an air of self importance.

Wha'dya mean "I'm always playing with this engine" its the only way to get it to run!
 
Haydn\'s Day

Got up.
did whatever this morning.
Watched the F1 at lunchtime and then was about to do something but - not living a million miles from me - became weatherbound by the deluge which hit N.England.
So - plan B. Goes on internet. Reads one or two bits of nonsense that have been posted and decides to get involved - in an independant kind of way by creating this little gem of a post. Lo and behold, Haydn is not alone - 20 responses thread together - everyone is weatherboound it seems.
You should all come and do some work for me - a tad of marking would give you something really positive to get involved in, and the imaginative nature of some of the responses would be really well received by some of my students. More importantly it would preserve that sacrosanct relationship between sailyboaties and motorboaties and ensure its continued prosperity and harmony.
So next time its a wet Sunday - I'll set up an online marking exercise and all will be ticketyboo.

regards
Claymore
 
Re Truce. Oh and ToMo

Hmm. Seem to have got in a bit of a pickle. Well I suppose if I dont have to wear the silly hat, suite or the coat of arms. Then there all brilliant places. Specially Tomo's, Brians, and the one at Portmadock. Will that do?

No one can force me to come here-----------
----- I'm a Volunteer!!!

Haydn
 
Re: Haydn\'s Day

dont need to bother with all that Claymore. Just send the buggers here, with there questions and answers. We'll mark them for you!!

No one can force me to come here-----------
----- I'm a Volunteer!!!

Haydn
 
I want peace!

On the Ribble, where most of my passages start, there are not that many boats on the 15 miles to the open sea, and of the 20 or 30 one passes on a Sunday, most are quite friendly. Usually we stinkies give the raggies and a friendly wave as we pass, which, in most cases is reciprocated. However, there are those (friends of the Commode?) who steadfastly ignore the stinkies and my friendly wave is greeted by a blank expression.

Last summer when I was happily making my way back up the river at 25kts or so, I was amazed to find one of the raggies (who normally ignores me) frantically waving from the edge of the channel.

So, I slowed and gently came alongside to be asked if I could manage a tow up to Preston as his motor had failed and the tide was falling. Of course, not a problem I volunteered. However, there was one teeny weeny caveat, if I was to make it to Preston and then back to Tarleton I would have to tow "A little faster than the normal potter along on idle". So, having made a good strong bridle from both stern cleats I attached his line and took up the slack. Accidentally I must have turned the radio volume down.

Gently increased the revs and watched the log, turned and gave a friendly wave, received one in return and pushed the throttle a little further open and teased it up to about 10 kts. A slightly apprehensive wave now returned, but mine was just as friendly.

The tow seemed to be going very well, but the little devil somewhere deep inside remembered all those friendly waves in the past which had been greeted with a flat unresponsive stare. Said devil just took control of my arm and nudged the throttle forward another 600 rpm and she gently climbed onto the plane. That's better now we are doing about 15/16 knots and my new friend is waving much more enthusiastically and pointing to the microphone in his other hand, now he is really pleased to see me!

Everything going just fine, so Open a Beer, wave back and point to beer which is raised in a toast. New friend now waving even more enthusiastically, he must really like me now!

Anyway, the tow went really well, slowed down just inside the outer basin got slack in my bridle, let go his line and as I pulled around past him with a friendly "Made good time there didn't we? Should just be able to get back to Tarleton before I lose the tide" I was amazed to be treated to a stream of abuse. I could not really understand why my good deed had brought such a reaction so I volunteered a lame "Well I did tell you I would have to go a little faster than normal and you said it would be alright, anyway Bye for now"

The fit of giggles I had as I powered back seaward to the confluence with the Douglas gradually grew to fits of laughter with tears rolling down my cheeks. Once I had regained my composure I could not help a gaze heavenwards, expecting the bolt of lightning to strike me down.

And, guess what, when I next passed my new friend the following weekend my friendly wave elicited an almost involuntary twitch of his wrist before he realised that now he was really not speaking to me and contained himself.

So, although we stinkies do our level best to hold out the olive branch of friendship to the raggies, it would seem that there is no pleasing some of them!


Chris .............. :-))
 
Re: Nice one

He was only moaning cos he didn't have hard antifouling and you eroded it all away in one afternoon, where it should have lasted the season!

Think its a bit off that he didn't thank you for the tow though! None of em has ever thanked me. So I spose thats another "Rule of the road". Engine breaks down, Hail the nearest stinkie to get a tow!

Wha'dya mean "I'm always playing with this engine" its the only way to get it to run!
 
Re: Nice one

Only been asked twicew for a tow, first pillock had mistimed his entrance into the Exe, damaged my boat in the process of trying to help, even phoned one of his relatives and not one word of thanks from any of them!

Second time towed a chap into Dartmouth, no wind and his engine had given up the ghost. He was very grateful and insisted on passing over a few bottles of good wine. Another chap thanked me for slowing down when passing his yacht several days before.

Just goes to show there's always two sides to any group of people, some good, some bad.
 
Re: Nice one

Thats what I said, in a roundabout way, a while ago. The ones that don't go around with an air of selfimportance. The decent ones give a nod and a wave back and are grateful for any help recieved/offered. The self important ones.......well!

Wha'dya mean "I'm always playing with this engine" its the only way to get it to run!
 
Re: Nice one

Ahem, Please help with dreadfull life n death problem. Now I have got my new to me " new "boat, I understand no longer be able to wear my greasy jeans and matching anti fouled sweatshirt set off by my not fit for anything else workshoes(one of which has nearly got a lace remaining in it) and pom pom hat.
Advice please for the correct attire to be allowed in your average clubhouse.
Pref available from OXFAM or Man at Millets.

And this is summer is it?
 
Re: Nice one

The Raggies boat on the plane was a picture of elegance porpoising beautifully.

Girlfriend thought I was being incredibly childish and disappeared into the cabin as soon as we were on the plane, remaining there till we were nearly home. She never did see the funny side.

I probably tow about three or four boats back up the river each year and very few bother to thank me. The most I have ever had from a raggie was two beers passed across at the end of the tow.

However, when escorting a gaggle of canal boats round from Preston on a Ribble Link Cruise a couple of years ago, I gently towed a very underpowered narrowboat, which had no chance of making the 10 mile passage on the tide. To my surprise, as it is a safety service we provide, the elderly couple insisted that I take £20. Which I refused several times and I eventually took it when they would not give up, and donated it to the Ribble Link Trust funds.

Though I no longer do any canalling, we (The Trust) have, after 18 years of people making fun of us, raised the £6M and the Ribble Link Navigation will be opened on 12th July. Finally the Lancaster Canal will be connected to the main Canal system, albeit via the Ribble and Douglas to Tarleton to join the Rufford Branch of the Leeds & Liverpool Canal.

So, it feels nice after 18 years of "You'll never build that in a thousand years" to know that most disbelievers were only about 982 years out in their estimations.

Take a look at www.Ribble-Link.co.uk - make no apologies for all the photos of Polar Fox under the "Enter" button, she has provided me with infinite amounts of fun!

And, I do still tow those in need!
 
Re: Nice one

Well most of 'em expect a reffer jacket with a pristine white yachting cap with a nice clean pair of deck shoes. But I say nuts to that wear what you fell comfortable in. I spend all week wearing a suit so come the week end or boat time, Jeans and a T are the order of the day.

Wha'dya mean "I'm always playing with this engine" its the only way to get it to run!
 
lifeboat services

It is pathetic that you only stop to help people to further your own enjoyment, not surprised your girlfriend doesn't find it amusing, nor surprised you don't get thanks either, what will your attitude be when one of your pranks goes wrong?

Don't forget that plenty of stinkies break down each year and get help from all sorts of boat users, lets hope when it's your turn that the raggie decides to sail back, tacking gracefully along the way.
 
Re: lifeboat services

Ye right. But its not fair. He's slowed down from his normal speed and charted course. to meet his destination and tide. And gone down from 30 knots to fifteen or less. Sohalving or less, his arrival time. So whats up with being wooshed along at reasonable speed???

No one can force me to come here-----------
----- I'm a Volunteer!!!

Haydn
 
Re: lifeboat services

If you had read my first posting correctly you would have seen that the person I towed was a yachtsman who had ignored my friendly wave on a number of occasions when I passed him (giving a safe and wide berth, so that my wash did not cause him any discomfort).
The first time that he deigned to notice me was when he needed help. Even after all the previous rebuffs, I did not leave him stranded. Though I must plead guilty to a childish moment.

Each year I tow a number of boats back up the river, and as I said in my second post only one yachtie has ever offered a couple of beers for for the time and effort involved, and with this one exception, all have been towed with courtesy and care.

With an auxilliary I hope never to need help. However, if the occasion should arise I would feel that the least I could do would be to pass across a decent bottle of wine by way of thanks.

However, when someone has treated me with total disdain and contempt, until that magic moment when he needed help, then I think he was fair game.

Courtesy and politness cost nothing, but if a person is not willing to show these attributes then I do not feel that he should consider it his right to be aided by those he has scorned.

I could very easily have returned his call for help with the same blank contempuous stare that my friendly waves always attracted, but I could not even consider leaving him drying out and heeling over till the next tide.

I am normally one of the most helpful people one may hope to find, however, pompous arrogance and ignorance will draw a reaction. If he was happy to ignore me on every other occasion that I passed, then he could just as easily have ignored me on that occasion as well. As it was, I did go 10 miles out of my way to get him back to his berth.

So, even if it offends you, I am afraid that I feel no remorse. If you found yourself in need of a tow from me, it would be done proficiently, carefully and courteously, unless perchance I identified you as one of the few who delights in displaying total contempt for powerboaters (till they need help), then the little devil inside may once again feel that it was payback time.
 
Re: lifeboat services

What happens when you tow a displacement boat (power or sale ) at twice it's hull speed?

Just curious.


Brian
 
Re: lifeboat services

Don't forget that this prat was not in danger, the worst that would have happened is that he would have been inconvenienced, not really a valid reason in my book to expect a tow from someone he's always ignored in the past!!
 
Re: lifeboat services

I did read your first post and I can see the amusing side in it (for you), I am not offended, and I have no doubt that you are the friendliest most helpful person in the whole wide world.

Fact is though it appears others don't think so, if you two know each other (in passing, friendly waving terms), I suspect he would have a word or two about you (there goes that pratt in the powerboat, always drinking, hanky tied to his head, no lifejacket, speeding, causing a huge wake in a restricted zone, kids hanging of the rails at 30 knots - I never think this things at all BTW) and it still doesn't excuse potentially dangerous behaviour even though this guy appears to be a sourpuss.

If you are expecting recompense you should make it clear, there are others who can help in these type of situations. Like you I would offer something, probably not booze 'cause it looks like you have more than enough of that on board.

Truth is, you have been outed by your own admissions, and you are bored of chugging about like many of your kinfolk so you play at being Thunderbird 2/ Joe 90, rescuing folk, all well and good, just keep your stinkie antics/feelings under control and let your girlfriend call the tune, she appears to know what is reasonable. And finally, you shouldn't drink and drive, especially when towing someone. :-))

and a final thought, ask haydn about how useful auxilliaries are when the boat is half full of water, now THAT is an amusing tale.
 
Re: lifeboat services

Point is, everyone else, including his girlfriend, didn't think it was reasonable. If he didn't want to go out of his way he could have helped to get someone else to help.

All the smokescreen about the raggie etc is an attempt to justify a piece of bad (alcohol fuelled) behaviour.
 
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