phanakapan
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Ha ha you got me there!
Are linear galleys as annoying as they look?
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grumpy_o_g
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rotrax
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We have two large side by side top loading fridges.
Secured by catches so the above cant happen............................................
Tranona
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Bet you are pleased you got all that off your chest!
Why don't you read what other people on this thread say (based on experience just as valid as yours) that say EXACTLY the opposite of what you say. Are they all wrong?
Why do you have to dismiss others' experiences as not worth it - as you did with RupertW. Why do you think you are the only person who has the experience and "gets it right"?
This thread is about galleys and not types of boats and seems pretty clear that most layouts work or can be made to work and there is a strong (numerical) preference for linear galleys (in the saloon because that is where most are) particularly in bad weather.
This is not me saying it, but a range of other posters, although as it happens I agree with them having experienced cooking in bad weather in my own Bavaria with a linear galley in the saloon. As Capnsensible says - just get on with it.
On the more general issues you try to raise - never have I recommended any type of boat for ocean passages, despite what you might like to think. My stance is that you need to look at what others choose and increasingly, for reasons I have explained to you at length in the past they are choosing mass production boats AND completing ocean passages successfully - even though you are constantly trying to tell me they are not suitable or capable.
As a good example look no further than this month's YM which has an account of a passage from Antigua to the Azores in a Beneteau 473 - a typical AWB. The boat had already done the westward passage and spent some time cruising the Caribbean Islands. Met some pretty heavy weather on the passage but not one mention of the boat feeling uncomfortable or not capable of handling the conditions.
There are literally hundreds of examples of such passages in AWBs, regularly featuring in accounts in magazines, blogs etc. Are the people who achieve this making it up? or lying?
There is really no need for you to be disparaging about others (either people or boats) to try and support your "superiority" of your choice of boat because it diminishes what is often useful experience and knowledge that others might find useful.
geem
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Glad you got that off your chest........����
dom
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Hang, on Rupert, if you sat in the cockpit that day surely that spouty thingy wld have sucked up your dinner for Zeus to sample
As for Geem, I think he’s just that bloke in the pub who has always.......
Seven Spades
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We have a centre cockpit boat with a liner galley in the corridor to the aft cabin. It is a great place to cook but you have to be very good friends with anyone who wants to pass! It is a great place to cook as it is almost in the pivot point of the boat.
Personally I think that they type of galley you have is dependent on the type of sailing you are likely to do. If you have a linear galley and sail in the Med or along the south coast of the UK then it is likely to be perfectly OK. If on the other hand you are blue water passage making you can't just out off cooking until the next port so I would think twice about buying a boat with that arrangement.
With regards to the Garcia there the galley is a bad design. The refrigerated draws open across the boat which is awful no matter which tack the boat is on. If you have those draws fitted then they need to be fitted inline with the hull not across it.
Personally I think that they type of galley you have is dependent on the type of sailing you are likely to do. If you have a linear galley and sail in the Med or along the south coast of the UK then it is likely to be perfectly OK. If on the other hand you are blue water passage making you can't just out off cooking until the next port so I would think twice about buying a boat with that arrangement.
With regards to the Garcia there the galley is a bad design. The refrigerated draws open across the boat which is awful no matter which tack the boat is on. If you have those draws fitted then they need to be fitted inline with the hull not across it.
RupertW
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Our boat is our home when we're on board so is used every night when we are at sea - it's perfectly possible to do a series of 2 to 3 night passages in the Med as we did this Summer cruising from Croatia to the Balearics in 4 weeks, and a couple of the passages were in unpleasant waves. The linear was fine functionionally as many ocean sailors attest but I admit I didn't enjoy the washing up one night dealing with steep swells from an old F9 with 200 mile fetch combined with a cross sea from the current F6.
doug748
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The typical linear effort, on a smaller modern boat, is there in order to fit in a second aft cabin; which is fine if you want a second aft cabin. I would prefer more stowage, which this type often lacks.
This then allows you to move the midship's heads box back, to the aft position that God ordained for it. In isolation this facility always takes on the surreal aspect of a Police Call Box. Following on from that, there is now the possibility of a good chart table.
All this stuff points away from charter boat practice and towards features that a private owner might want.
Of course these are just my views, there is a good deal too much of telling people what is best on our august organ. Though I must admit I was astounded to learn that a 47 foot boat had made it to America with a linear galley. I shall have a eye to the Yachtsperson of the Year awards.
One last shabby and unworthy thought (ocean navigators can avert their gaze here). The most telling thing against a long mid galley is the sad illusion of living in a bed sitting room. It is much more satisfactory for me to entertain, or have a final glass, without looking across at a pile of washing up.
Trivial I know but of sight out of mind. :02.47-tranquillity:
This then allows you to move the midship's heads box back, to the aft position that God ordained for it. In isolation this facility always takes on the surreal aspect of a Police Call Box. Following on from that, there is now the possibility of a good chart table.
All this stuff points away from charter boat practice and towards features that a private owner might want.
Of course these are just my views, there is a good deal too much of telling people what is best on our august organ. Though I must admit I was astounded to learn that a 47 foot boat had made it to America with a linear galley. I shall have a eye to the Yachtsperson of the Year awards.
One last shabby and unworthy thought (ocean navigators can avert their gaze here). The most telling thing against a long mid galley is the sad illusion of living in a bed sitting room. It is much more satisfactory for me to entertain, or have a final glass, without looking across at a pile of washing up.
Trivial I know but of sight out of mind. :02.47-tranquillity:
newtothis
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A few more lashes for the crew should sort that one out for you.
