Approximate cost of copper coat.

[ST840]

For a 28ft boat?
Who's had it done, what did it cost and is it worth it?

 

[Canopy Locked]

Have CC 2 boats - totally worth it - preparation is the absolute key together with environmental conditions (heat / humidity) within limits.

As to cost of materials - just pick up the phone and ask Coppercoat.

If you're going to get a "pro" to do it, ask them what conditions they would do the job in then compare their answer with what copper coat says. If they answer differently - avoid them - cannot overemphasise that preparation and good conditions are absolutely key to a good result!

 

[Hurricane]

Cant help with current CC costs but here's a link to a thread where I posted my Coppercoat experience.
Coppercoat – The Complete Process
Go to post #86 if you don't want to see the silly Photobucket watermarks.

Our initial CC was done in 2012 - recoated (added new layers) about 3 years ago.

 

[KevinV]

I'm just about to CC mine (22' fin keel) - the folks at CC were really helpful. Material cost works out at approx 4x antifoul paint, and in my case a lot of my own labour to do the initial prep. Very much hoping it'll mean I don't have to do it again for at least 5 years, while keeping the boat in the water year-round.

 

[Elessar]

I'm just about to CC mine (22' fin keel) - the folks at CC were really helpful. Material cost works out at approx 4x antifoul paint, and in my case a lot of my own labour to do the initial prep. Very much hoping it'll mean I don't have to do it again for at least 5 years, while keeping the boat in the water year-round.

It will last 3 times that easily.

 

[MapisM]

It will last 3 times that easily.

Really?
I'm going into the 6th season with my boat, and while I'd hope it'll be still good for this oncoming season and possibly the next, I'm certainly not holding my breath expecting more than that - let alone 15 years!?!

Not that I'm complaining, mind.
Hurricane's experience was an important factor when I decided to give CC a try in my (back then) new to me boat, which needed a full removal of old a/f anyway. So, if I should recoat her in a year or two, I would be following his path nicely, and I'd be a happy bunny.

Apropos, @Hurricane: I can't remember, did you possibly post also a thread about the recoating process?

 

[KevinV]

It will last 3 times that easily.

If it does 4+ seasons I break even if I take my time into account - anything beyond that is a bonus. I've heard of it doing 12, but I've also heard of it hardly working at all, so I'll reserve judgement, with fingers firmly crossed.

 

[john_morris_uk]

Length of use seems to depend on how you use your boat in our experience. Our CC has been on ten years and if we leave the boat for any length of time we get some slime and light weed on the waterline. However after our recent transatlantic the bottom was perfectly clean with no growth of slime at all. We’re now sailing sporadically and anchoring for a few days at a time and we get some very slight weed around the waterline.

 

[Scarron]

I did ours myself in 2011 so 12 years and counting. In the water year round and comes out maybe twice a year to do anodes and a pressure wash, still works well.

 

[harvey38]

I went to a 'Pro' who said they get a good discount with CC and gave me a breakdown of materials and labour, out of interest I called CC directly and they could supply it cheaper including shipping

Very good stuff though, used on a boat on the Thames for 10+ years and very effective, our current boat with CC based in Ramsgate is now now in it's eleventh year and only a thin coating of slime appears in Summer that is easily pressure washed off.

 

[Hurricane]

Apropos, @Hurricane: I can't remember, did you possibly post also a thread about the recoating process?

No, I don't think I did post anything on the re-coating process but I did take some pics.
We had to have the boat out of the water for a few weeks whilst one of the engines was moved, fixed and moved back.
So, I took the opportunity to put a few more coats (3 IIRC) on top of the old.
That was Feb 2019.
We did it ourselves (with one extra paid labourer).
It was ?loody hard work.
I bought a couple of cheap orbital sanders (taking care to get the ones with a large orbit).
Then, we set to to sand it back and prepare for the re-coating.
The old CC was stuck well and, being epoxy, it doesn't come off when sanded.
Then three of us worked - two applying - one mixing.

And this was the result.







We often "top the CC up" and previously, we had done the transom so I didn't bother with the transom on this occasion.



SCM is particularly aggressive with barnacles.
We have found that White Trilux for the thrusters and thruster tunnels seems to work better though.
No Trilux this year (I can't get any) so I will probably be trying the Cruiser 200 although I do have a pot of Blue Trilux in the shed that I could try.

But back to the point
I'm happy with CC - after 11 years.
I think a benefit that most people overlook is that it IS epoxy so IMO, it does a better job at protecting the hull that ordinary antifoul.

 

[LeonF]

I went to a 'Pro' who said they get a good discount with CC and gave me a breakdown of materials and labour, out of interest I called CC directly and they could supply it cheaper including shipping

Very good stuff though, used on a boat on the Thames for 10+ years and very effective, our current boat with CC based in Ramsgate is now now in it's eleventh year and only a thin coating of slime appears in Summer that is easily pressure washed off.

Harvey where on the Thames was your boat moored ? I've heard that it's unlikely to work well owing to the high level of phosphates in the water ? My boat is on the Lower Thames, Gravesend. Leon

 

[Chiara’s slave]

We had our tri done last summer, by River Yar Boatyard. It cost about £2500, they lifted, stripped, prepped and painted. We get some fouling, but it brushes off easily. If you antifoul with trad antifoul paint, you get some fouling. Then when you brush it off, the paint comes off too. Our Copper Coat stays on, and stays super smooth.

 

[harvey38]

Harvey where on the Thames was your boat moored ? I've heard that it's unlikely to work well owing to the high level of phosphates in the water ? My boat is on the Lower Thames, Gravesend. Leon

Moored at Abingdon and Bray, that was many years ago now so water chemistry will have no doubt changed everywhere. Our 12 year old CC is still performing well on our current boat in Ramsgate.

 

[Elessar]

We had our tri done last summer, by River Yar Boatyard. It cost about £2500, they lifted, stripped, prepped and painted. We get some fouling, but it brushes off easily. If you antifoul with trad antifoul paint, you get some fouling. Then when you brush it off, the paint comes off too. Our Copper Coat stays on, and stays super smooth.

For budgeting, the price is approx 1/3 the cost of the paint, 1/3 blasting and 1/3 prep and application. DIYers can reduce the cost of the last 1/3 only.
Bearing in mind that in all the Coppercoat horror stories you read, it is because the applicator didn’t RTFM and “knew better”.
Given the maximum you can save is 1/3 I’d pay someone who has a track record and knows what they are doing. And reduce the cost a teeny bit by being the mixer/tea maker/sanding assistant.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

For budgeting, the price is approx 1/3 the cost of the paint, 1/3 blasting and 1/3 prep and application. DIYers can reduce the cost of the last 1/3 only.
Bearing in mind that in all the Coppercoat horror stories you read, it is because the applicator didn’t RTFM and “knew better”.
Given the maximum you can save is 1/3 I’d pay someone who has a track record and knows what they are doing. And reduce the cost a teeny bit by being the mixer/tea maker/sanding assistant.

Sounds right. We didn’t analyse. The question was ‘can we afford it’ rather than anything else, as we’d only the previous year stripped 20 years of mixed layers and barrier off the boat ourselves. Neither of us were up for that again. It did make the prep quite quick for the yard of course, which they knew before quoting. They’d watched us do it. Our anti foul was a complete flop, even with all that prep. We launched in October, it was useless by spring, hence the copper coat. Very pleased so far, even with the interim growth, it’s so easy to remove.

 

[Elessar]

Sounds right. We didn’t analyse. The question was ‘can we afford it’ rather than anything else, as we’d only the previous year stripped 20 years of mixed layers and barrier off the boat ourselves. Neither of us were up for that again. It did make the prep quite quick for the yard of course, which they knew before quoting. They’d watched us do it. Our anti foul was a complete flop, even with all that prep. We launched in October, it was useless by spring, hence the copper coat. Very pleased so far, even with the interim growth, it’s so easy to remove.

And the the good news is the first year is the worst year with Coppercoat. It takes a couple of months maybe even three to get to full strength whereas conventional antifoul takes only a week or two.

 

[Martxer]

For a 28ft boat?
Who's had it done, what did it cost and is it worth it?

Just wondering if you have come to a conclusion. I am thinking about it

 

[ST840]

Just wondering if you have come to a conclusion. I am thinking about it

Yes I am booked in to have it completed whilst I go on holiday at end of May.

 

[Blueboatman]

I did read that copper prices are set to go much higher so that would filter through to copper coat costs … get ‘er done !