Anyone know a source of a z-bracket with a flange?

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The boat has some new open shelves. I'd like to place a retainer (a wood/plastic batten) across the front of the shelf when 'securing for sea'. There would be (left and right) z shaped brackets at either end so the batten could be dropped into place. The bracket is flanged to stop the batten moving sideways. I have seen and used them at sea many times but cannot find them anywhere (including googling images).
Can anyone help?
Cheers
Bob
 
RIBW said:
The boat has some new open shelves. I'd like to place a retainer (a wood/plastic batten) across the front of the shelf when 'securing for sea'. There would be (left and right) z shaped brackets at either end so the batten could be dropped into place. The bracket is flanged to stop the batten moving sideways. I have seen and used them at sea many times but cannot find them anywhere (including googling images).
Can anyone help?
Cheers
Bob
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Hi Bob. If you can't find anything I would be happy to design and 3D print something for you for a nominal fee. All I would need is a rough sketch.
Cheers. Andrew
 
ash2020 said:
Hi Bob. If you can't find anything I would be happy to design and 3D print something for you for a nominal fee. All I would need is a rough sketch.
Cheers. Andrew
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Thanks Andrew,
The item I remember is a mass produced 'standard?' item. If I don't find it, I'll get back to you.
Cheers
Bob
 
LadyInBed said:
Are these thay?
Amazon.co.uk : z brackets metal
I use U brackets mounted on the two end walls.
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Thanks Monty,
I think I know what you mean but in this case the brackets would intrude into the tight shelf space (the end walls are the vertical ply of the shelving. I'm hoping to screw the brackets to the outside vertical edge of the ply and then be able to drop the retainer into place when needed - possibly could be described as a drop-in fiddle.
Cheers
Bob
 
RIBW said:
The boat has some new open shelves. I'd like to place a retainer (a wood/plastic batten) across the front of the shelf when 'securing for sea'. There would be (left and right) z shaped brackets at either end so the batten could be dropped into place. The bracket is flanged to stop the batten moving sideways. I have seen and used them at sea many times but cannot find them anywhere (including googling images).
Can anyone help?
Cheers
Bob
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Any company working with metal profiles would prepare the required brackets fairly cheap at order. Basically they will prepare the z bracket profile in one single length (depending length of each bracket) 1m, 2 m etc, and the cut each bracket accordingly. You can even have it pre-drilled.
 
If you want to drop a bar or rail into place would not a hanging rail support do the job. I know you said "Z" shape but !!
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On my boat the rails at the front of the shelves are oval timber & slightly larger. One can also just use coated tubing
 
Or how about getting some 5mm thick ply that matches the shelf sides, cut it into a couple of U shapes, one for each side and let the front fiddle just drop into them.

But now I've just read that the bar might want to be across the front instead of within the shelf.. Are these the style the OP was thinking of? Stainless concealed mount

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Not exactly the answer to your question but the way I stop all the books falling out of the chart table shelves was to put some window material into a bit of fabric, put poppers along the top and the screw the bottom edge of the fabric to the lower shelf edge.

Can see everything that's in there but more importantly it keeps things dry whilst sailing if people come in with wet waterproofs or hair.

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Just a thought... Ignore if way off the mark.
 
Martin_J said:
But now I've just read that the bar might want to be across the front instead of within the shelf..
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I must admit that I had not considered that the OP might have shelves flush with the sides. Hence, wardrobe brakets would not work, unless the shelves were cut shorter. That seems like the neatest & obvious solution. "Z" brackets stuck on the face of the upright sides would look a bit unsightly. But they could be used to hang ones dirty pants on at night & packets of mintoes during the day. So they would have dual use.
 
Martin_J said:
Not exactly the answer to your question but the way I stop all the books falling out of the chart table shelves was to put some window material into a bit of fabric, put poppers along the top and the screw the bottom edge of the fabric to the lower shelf edge.

Can see everything that's in there but more importantly it keeps things dry whilst sailing if people come in with wet waterproofs or hair.

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Just a thought... Ignore if way off the mark.
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That is a really neat solution
But re the hair. Why would anyone want to put one's head in a shelf? Surely the oven is the recognised standard receptacle. Or the loo of course :rolleyes: ;)
 
Daydream believer said:
That is a really neat solution
But re the hair. Why would anyone want to put one's head in a shelf? Surely the oven is the recognised standard receptacle. Or the loo of course :rolleyes: ;)
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The hair... I knew the wording wasn't quite right... long covid brain fog meant I couldn't be bothered to work out a better way of writing it!

Best to keep dry hair on the book shelf I guess..

As to the original post .. a photo of the guilty shelf wood help with replies :)
 
Thanks for all your interesting/inventive replies.
For my first attempt at a solution, I have decided to butcher some U-channel.
(The ply is 18mm and the U-channel 20mmx3)
Vertical support will be by cutting a tongue of 20mm at one end of the U-channel and bending it through 90deg to close the slot.
One face of the U-channel will then be screwed into the vertical edge of the shelving. Screwdriver access to the screwheads will be by a hole drilled through the opposite face of the U-channel (to avoid screwing at an angle).
A bit of context - the shelving is in what is referred to as 'the glory hole' - a largish walk-in unused compartment. There is no aesthetic or elfin safety issue with the projecting metal parts (or [#11] anything dangling from them).
I am grateful for all your thoughts
Cheers
Bob
 
Martin_J said:
The hair... I knew the wording wasn't quite right... long covid brain fog meant I couldn't be bothered to work out a better way of writing it!
Best to keep dry hair on the book shelf I guess..
As to the original post .. a photo of the guilty shelf wood help with replies :)
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Actually I woke up at 02-00 hours last night feeling worried that I was being a little insensitive. I had forgotten that you might wear a syrup, so would want to put your "hair " in the shelf at night. To avoid being placed under the sink along with all the other cleaning gear, mops etc.
As for photos - Not without the wig please. Might break forum rules. :eek:
 
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