Anybody fitted Permateek vs Tekdek

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Just wondering if any one has fitted Permateek web page.

Looks pretty good on the website and have heard good things about it but how does it perform on an outside deck long term I wonder.
Is it better or worse than equivalent non- teak alternatives eg Tekdek

Feedback gratefully received.
 
I've been looking for something to replace Guapa's (rapidly) ageing teak decks.

Looked at all sorts, including Permateek and TekDek.
Have seen both - new and after a few years.
Both left me equally un-impressed. New was so-so, after a few years: tacky and disgusting.

Then stumbled across this - Marinedeck 2000.
http://www.stazo.nl/html/marinedeck_2000_exterior.html
Not plastic, but compressed cork.
Etap now use it, and so does Allure.
Seen it new (at Etap yard), and after a few years (a couple of boats in Cherbourg and one in Ramsgate).
Looked good, felt good - went for it.
Price's reasonable too. Paying €7,300 for 30m/sq
 
Hi Guapa.
Thanks for the response, an interesting alternative.Was it fitted in the UK?
To be fair i've heard pretty good reports of Permateek but it would be nice to get a 'ya or nay' from somone who has it.
 
No - it will be fitted in Antwerp this winter.
Cost of labour in the UK substantially higher than in Belgium.

UK importer/dealer

http://www.worldwood.com/websiteGB/index.html

Name :Worldwood b.v., represented by: Cowdy Timber Agencies (CTA)
Address : 34, West Common Drive
Zip code and town : Lindfield, RH16 2AW Haywards Heath, West Sussex
Contact : Mr. Paul Cowdy
Telephone nr. : + 44 1444 450126
Fax nr. : + 44 1444 450227
Mobile phone : + 44 770 3218 667
 
This is just my opinion.

Hate to sound negative but I just tore this type of deck off my boat. It was fitted a few years ago by a previous owner and it was awful.


It was functional and it looked ok but selling the boat was an impossibility and surveyors told me that they would never be able to assure a potential purchaser that the subdeck was sound and had not suffered a softened core.


I had about 20 people who came to see my boat with a view to purchasing it and all revolted at the deck surface.

You can see photos if you click the link in my signature.

Whilst the laying was not great, the product also seemed so false that it was akin to fitting deep pile carpet on the deck.

Tony
 
Surely, the softened core could be an issue whatever you put on top.

I had a look at your pictures - maybe the potential buyers 'revulsion' had more to with the way the deck was laid than with the material?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22922483@N03/2335231395/in/set-72157604127579547/

Just look at those seams. I could have done a better job, and I've got two left hands.

As to resale - I don't see myself selling the boat any time soon. In 15 years maybe. So, whatever I chose for - in 15 years time it will need attention anyway.
 
Perhaps I was not clear enough.

The issue with the soft deck was a perception, derived from the texture and feel of the cork decking, not a reality. But in order to dispel this false perception it was necessary to remove the deck.

Yes the laying was bad, I acknowledge that but it was the material that was in issue not the laying.

The consensus was that removing the deck covering and replacing it was not a major problem, as I was pricing the boat to allow for this, but the potential cost of a softened deck core was the off putting point.

If you keep yours for a long time I wish you well with it, the surface is very practical and pleasant but the spongyness was a real issue.

I am inclined toward flexiteek. I saw a 352 done with it and I honestly thought it was real teak, it may have been aikino which is a step above flexiteek.

The decision will be made at the SIBS or by the next owner.

The cost in Antwerp is really good, irrespective of the product used. I was quoted €10,600 here to lay Tek Dek with materials costing 3000 e for 15 sqm.

Best of luck.
 
Funny that - maybe we're talking about different cork based products.
None of the Marinedeck boats I inspected had a 'spongy' feel.

The Antwerp cost quoted is for the materials only. (30 m/sq)
Fitting it will cost another €5400 (making it €12700 in total).

Compared to the cost of real teak (quoted between £23,000 and £30,000) this is a bargain.
 
I must say I thought that the deck looked pretty damn good in your photo's -if it wasn't for the weak pound I might have come over to look myself. What might put buyers off is all the other brightwork in the cockpit that seems to have worn very badly.
The credit crunch, economic downturn and the poor weather are all having a very negative impact on boat sales and driving down prices. I'm just waiting to see if my offer of £30k for a 2 year old boat originally costing £80k is going to be accepted /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
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