Any solid info on EES yet?

[lustyd]

It’s starting to go live next month and there seems to be no concrete information for yachts that I can find. The CA just link to an EU page which is very generic.

I’m starting to worry that, given the low numbers, it may end up easier to just stop boat travel for anything smaller than a ferry (for them and the UK).

Does anyone have any links to info for yachts specifically?

 

[Lightwave395]

I'm waiting with baited breath too... at least my new boat should be back in Brittany before then so it'll just be us on the ferry by then

 

[Bobc]

Entered France a few days ago. Not a sniff of it anywhere yet.

 

[lustyd]

Entered France a few days ago. Not a sniff of it anywhere yet.

Well there wouldn't be, it goes live next month What I'm looking for is guidance for when it does. I can't believe the CA and RYA just wait and see, surely they have some contacts to ask!

 

[wallacebob]

The last update I read said the new system willed be “rolled out” from October as all countries or entry/exit points will not be ready, and to allow for the inevitable glitches. Alicante airport have the new scanner tech, I used it successfully this year for normal entry to Spain. I assume some ports may be a bit down the list, so existing passport methods will work side by side.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

Well there wouldn't be, it goes live next month What I'm looking for is guidance for when it does. I can't believe the CA and RYA just wait and see, surely they have some contacts to ask!

By ‘not a sniff’, I read no booths in sight. There is an EU website on it, which has 2 paragraphs, which the BBC have helpfully reproduced. Dover for the ferries, and St Pancras for Eurostar. Nothing else goes live on the 12th. We’ll get a soght of the Porthsmouth ferry terminal on the 4th Oct, and a walk through Malaga on the 20th. I’m not holding my breath for any signs of progress.

 

[lustyd]

If it goes live at ferry terminals and that’s where we check in that that affects us and guidance is needed.
St Malo as an example has always been difficult as you had to find the correct hut in the entrance to the terminal by walking the wrong way through a car area with no footpaths. That hut certainly won’t get a machine in the near term, and even if it did I’m unsure of what I need to do to prepare or what to take.
Someone must have some guidance given we’re less than a month from launch and six months from full rollout. If not, next year will be utter chaos.

 

[Boathook]

I suspect the the French will just carry on with the existing system for the small ports until they put scanners in. The paperwork system was only i believe for France and didn't cover the rest of the EU.
Whether France put the details from the bits of paper onto the EU system is another matter.

 

[seanav]

I suspect the the French will just carry on with the existing system for the small ports until they put scanners in. The paperwork system was only i believe for France and didn't cover the rest of the EU.
Whether France put the details from the bits of paper onto the EU system is another matter.

I doubt the French will want to put scanners in every small port , given the cost and the purpose ( a relatively small number of UK sailors ) .Surely its more likely that it will be the responsibility of the crew to have sorted before leaving UK ,to Dover St Pancras or possibly 1 of the larger French ports on arrival register pay the £20 and be good for 18 months. Could be wrong , but a networked scanner in every port sounds very expensive

 

[seeSimon]

Similar but different?

On passing through a major airport in Greece last week, the new scanners have been delivered.
However, they are still palletised and stacked in the arrivals hall. No sign of installation preps.

We were stamped in, as is now usual.

 

[Boathook]

I doubt the French will want to put scanners in every small port , given the cost and the purpose ( a relatively small number of UK sailors ) .Surely its more likely that it will be the responsibility of the crew to have sorted before leaving UK ,to Dover St Pancras or possibly 1 of the larger French ports on arrival register pay the £20 and be good for 18 months. Could be wrong , but a networked scanner in every port sounds very expensive

The French brought in the paperwork as all the small harbours lost trade from the British no being able to go there easily. How trade was discussed in a thread a few years ago, but the French Mayor's considered it a worthwhile income for their towns and ports to fight for it.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

If it goes live at ferry terminals and that’s where we check in that that affects us and guidance is needed.
St Malo as an example has always been difficult as you had to find the correct hut in the entrance to the terminal by walking the wrong way through a car area with no footpaths. That hut certainly won’t get a machine in the near term, and even if it did I’m unsure of what I need to do to prepare or what to take.
Someone must have some guidance given we’re less than a month from launch and six months from full rollout. If not, next year will be utter chaos.

These first checks are on British territory, not the French end. Nothing in France yet. I presume they’d rather it went wrong where they can blame someone else.

 

[lustyd]

These first checks are on British territory, not the French end. Nothing in France yet. I presume they’d rather it went wrong where they can blame someone else.

Which begs the question of whether the French ports will even retain the ability to check people in if they expect people to arrive and already be in. It’d be nice if one of our yachting organisations would at least ask!

 

[Chiara’s slave]

Which begs the question of whether the French ports will even retain the ability to check people in if they expect people to arrive and already be in. It’d be nice if one of our yachting organisations would at least ask!

The DIY option we have of crossing the channel is small beer. TPTB may have overlooked it

 

[lustyd]

The DIY option we have of crossing the channel is small beer. TPTB may have overlooked it

That was my point above, it’s entirely possible that they decide to just stop admitting small boats as it might not be worth the overhead.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

That was my point above, it’s entirely possible that they decide to just stop admitting small boats as it might not be worth the overhead.

I’m pretty sure we have international treaties for that sort of thing. And there's a lot of marina owning towns in northern France who’d be quite upset too.

 

[lustyd]

I hope you’re right!

 

[SaltyC]

That was my point above, it’s entirely possible that they decide to just stop admitting small boats as it might not be worth the overhead.

Hmmm, didn't they do that after B Day. The French lost revenue and implemented a work around?

 

[DJE]

There

I doubt the French will want to put scanners in every small port , given the cost and the purpose ( a relatively small number of UK sailors ) .Surely its more likely that it will be the responsibility of the crew to have sorted before leaving UK ,to Dover St Pancras or possibly 1 of the larger French ports on arrival register pay the £20 and be good for 18 months. Could be wrong , but a networked scanner in every port sounds very expensive

There was one installed in the border police office in Nieupoort, Belgium last summer. But the officers there had no idea when it would become operational.

 

[st599]

They were visible in Brest when we arrived there in July.

Seen the same ones installed in Hamburg, Düsseldorf and Geneva airports this year.

They are beasts, not a chance your average marina will install one. They'll have to wait to see how or if there are portable units available.