Another nail in the coffin of a unique culture?

Donald

I just wondered if this would be allowed in the good ol' US of A?

I understand that the Amish get to keep their unique way of life enshrined in their Constitution.....


....Ah. I forget. Constitution. Similar to a Bill of Rights? Sadly lacking in this country.

Donald
 
Under current Employment legislation they can't be forced to work on a Sunday. Whilst I am sure that there may be the odd rogue employer, most employers are only too aware of this. If they try to force an employee to work on a Sunday then they lay themselves open to a claim for unfair dismissal. IIRC they could also be prosecuted.
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With all those employees with strong Christian beliefs, even if they can keep their jobs, whilst not working Sundays, are certainly denied promotion prospects.
How things have changed in th last 50 years - now the worship of Mammon is almost universal.
 
Since 19th Century when a vast majority honoured God, what has happened to integrity in the country and what has happened to our status as a nation

The last vestiges of the British Motor industry has gone down it is beleived because of management greed, the bulk of the industry went down because of workers greed and management's inability to manage

PS. ¶ Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin a reproach to any people
Proverbs 14:34

I expect flak, but think about it.
 
So, because these people have an imaginary friend they want everybody else to comply with their way of life. Do the operators insist that they use the ferry?, it's all dead easy from my point of view, they can retain their medieval views and not use the ferry or any other service and those who wish to use it can do so.

David
 
Its one of those "rights" things again, two sides, both have "rights", those "righta" are mutually exclusive. Which ones should prevail? Easy, those of the side with the most expensive legal adive or, the side who are most representative of politically correct right-on members of society.

A Bill of "Rights" would not solve this, but would, just like the US Constitution, become a lawyer's gravytrain and a way of enshrining attitudes and views that have become uneccessary. The Right to Bear Arms comes to mind...
 
I guess they never needed a ferry on a Sunday............what with their walking on water ability /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
I have some sympathy but I’m afraid it will have to be tinged with pragmatism. South Harris is only one part of the Outer Hebrides chain that has changes in religion from North to South. In Barra the population is largely Catholic with a more laid back attitude whilst in Lewis Presbyterianism is strong.

However the whole group have to rely on intra island travel for economic reasons, the largest of which is tourism. It could be argued that making life difficult for travellers between Uist and Harris is unfair to the Southern islands since it restricts the movement of visitors.

If the islands were fully self supporting, then I’d feel that their arguments were more justified, but there is a large inward investment from the mainland where Sunday activities are the norm. By all means they should be able to dictate the way of life on the island. Take the road by the golf course and you will see this sign

‘Absolutely NO Sunday Golf’ and why not if that's what they want.
 
One wonders why the views of mainlanders and foreigners should be taken account of when it is a strictly island issue. I for one would be pleased to hear that the offending vessel was sunk at her moorings by a thunderbolt when there was no-one aboard.

Freedom does not mean the imposition of an unwanted activity from outside. It means accepting that people have different opinions and one should not seek to offend those people by imposing upon them.


Ken
 
I'm not sure if it matters whether one agrees with their beliefs or not. As an athiest I have always been very careful to respect other peoples beliefs as long as they don't insist on trying to convert me. In return I will not try to convert them.

If part of the majority of people of this island don't want a ferry service on a Sunday, I don't see that it should be forced upon them.

BTW, what sanctions are used against the shore staff, line handlers etc that work on a Sunday, I wonder.
 
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what sanctions are used against the shore staff, line handlers etc that work on a Sunday, I wonder.

[/ QUOTE ] None yet, but they will burrrn in Heeeeeeeell in due course. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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With all those employees with strong Christian beliefs, even if they can keep their jobs, whilst not working Sundays, are certainly denied promotion prospects.

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...and your evidence to support that claim????

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How things have changed in th last 50 years - now the worship of Mammon is almost universal.

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Why is it that you evangelical types insist that, if we don't worship your god, we have to be worshipping something else?
FWIW most people in this country still claim to be Christian. Many don't, but that does not mean they follow one of your other fanciful deities. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
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Since Th Century when a vast majority honoured God, what has happened to integrity in the country and what has happened to our status as a nation.

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Will that be the 19th C that started with widespread slavery, or the 19th C of child labour, or disease, or high infant mortality? Or is it the 19th C of the Work House, Lunatic Asylums or deportation?

Ah, those were the days! Everyone believed in your god. They must have had integrity.

I wonder if you have thought about it.
 
multiculturalism

what is this? It seems to be a handy catch-all term for passing any law or indeed caving into to any pressre group. Rabid religions from anywhere get theire way with faith schols cos it's MC - but then sacred sunday is out the windw for the same reason?...
 
Re: An athiest being careful to respect others beliefs?

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This is a difficult concept for me. How ccan one respect something (a belief) that one considers to be nonsense?

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It is more a respect for the right to that belief.

For example, SWMBO is a practicing catholic from an Irish family. I have read many philosophies including christian, islam, marxism etc. and find it impossible to accept all of the teachings and dogma of any of them lock stock and barrel.

I have the greatest respect for the strength of SWMBOs faith and the way it helps her, so I try to support her all I can and would not dream of knocking or trying to undermine it, even though I don't believe as she does.

In a similar way, what god a person believes in may seem nonsense to a non believer, but it is the belief that is important, not the existance or otherwise of that deity.
 
Re: An athiest being careful to respect others beliefs?

I agree wholeheartedly with what you have said. My only problem is when the god botherers don't or won't respect my disbelief!
I include their offensive habit of quoting from the bible. For all the relevance it has to me they may just as well quote from Enid Blyton and claim it to be "true".
 
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Although I do not share their Sabbatarian fervour, am I alone in regretting the passing of a unique way of life?

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As one who has attended a Wee Free service, (hands up those in that flock) I must remind any one tempted, that one does not smile on emerging into the blazing sun after an hour and a half of misery. In my case, the service was mainly in the Gaelic, but in mid (long) prayer, English was resorted to, and a special disapprobation was ejaculated for "the foreigners in our midst who have not seen the light". It made me realise the truth of the saying that all extremism is dangerous.

Thrall
 
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