Another hypothetical question concerning passenger/crew

[kingsebi]

Sorry to bother you guys with another similar thread. I would have posted my question in the other thread, but that one got closed.

Say my cat meets a stranger in port, they make friends and we decide to take him sailing. He has a valid passport from another EU country. We get into a coastguard control, they check his passport and it turns out that he is in Greece illegally. Say he got deported earlier for some reason and re-entered illegally. Would I be liable again? How am I supposed to know that he is in the country illegally? Would it be my duty as the skipper to check that? How would I even do that? Could they make me liable for something I do not and cannot know?

I guess yes, but I’m curious about some learned opinions.

PS: Nothing to do with the bunny boiler. I survived the full moon cruise, sailed on and left her in her hammock on the beach. Unfortunately she lost her job as a dishwasher (she was bold enough to ask for six euros an hour) and will probably follow me around to complete her evil mission.

 

[Sandydog2]

I think your cat will get you in trouble one day. They seem to hang out with some dodgy characters. It takes a lot for an EU citizen to be deported from a member state. I wonder why he even told your cat about it.

Normally I'd think it was only up to you to add them to your crew list. You couldn't know about the deportation. But since you do know about it you might ask yourself how you would prove you weren't the one bringing them in illegally.

If he is not willing to be put on the crew list I would not take him sailing.

 

[kingsebi]

I know. And she’s looking so innocent all the while. Everybody trusts her so they tell her things.

I guess I could prove that with my logbook entries that show that I have not left the country in the last one and a half years? Maybe my tracks and markers on Navionics?

I don’t understand what it has to do with the crew list. I have never written a crew list to this day. Do I have to? What does it matter if he’s on the crew list or not?

I would never take this hypothetical person sailing. I would fear to be treated as an accomplice to the hypothetical crimes he committed.

 

[Irish Rover]

PS: Nothing to do with the bunny boiler. I survived the full moon cruise, sailed on and left her in her hammock on the beach. Unfortunately she lost her job as a dishwasher (she was bold enough to ask for six euros an hour) and will probably follow me around to complete her evil mimission.if I

If I remember correctly you promised to give us details about the island where the bunny boiler worked. We're waiting.

 

[kingsebi]

The island is Limnos. But she won’t be there for much longer so if you want to get chopped up you will have to hurry

 

[Irish Rover]

The island is Limnos. But she won’t be there for much longer so if you want to get chopped up you will have to hurry

I've no interest in getting chopped up, thanks. So where did pussy encounter the latest stray?

 

[kingsebi]

I've no interest in getting chopped up, thanks. So where did pussy encounter the latest stray?

We‘ve been on the hard in Thessaloniki May and June and made a couple of friends there.

 

[Irish Rover]

We‘ve been on the hard in Thessaloniki May and June and made a couple of friends there.

Seems like yourself and the pussy are a bit hard up for friends, or should I maybe say hard on?

 

[kingsebi]

Seems like yourself and the pussy are a bit hard up for friends, or should I maybe say hard on?

We sail hard on the wind.

 

[Irish Rover]

We sail hard on the wind.

An innocent mobo man like myself wouldn't have a clue what you itinerant raggies get up to .

 

[kingsebi]

An innocent mobo man like myself wouldn't have a clue what you itinerant raggies get up to .

Haha

 

[srm]

Flying internationally airlines ensure that passengers have valid permission to enter the destination country before allowing them to board. They do not want to have to fly the passenger back. There may also be other penalties.
My understanding is that the skipper/owner of a yacht has the same responsibility for persons on board when entering a country. There is probably no problem for nationals of a Schengen country within the Schengen area but could be different if you import a Brit or any other person from a third country into a Schengen state.

 

[shan]

My advice, stop courting trouble or you're going to end up in it. The Bunny-boiler was bad enough; this is bordering on self sabotage.

 

[Seastoke]

Are you now saying, you are BI

 

[kingsebi]

You mean my cat?

 

[Seastoke]

Bye