Annual Maintenance & Servicing Costs: Sunseeker Camargue 47

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Good afternoon knowledgable ones.
Anyone on here have recent experience of the annual costs of maintaining/servicing a 1996 Sunseeker Camargue 47 (with Caterpillar 3208 TA -435hp) engines.
I'm looking at one in the Med and broker has indicted I need to allow around 20k euros per year (around 17k GBP) for maintenance and servicing.
The engines have been regularly serviced - and have around 2,000 hours on them

I'm no mechanic but willing to learn/use You tube videos and have a go at jobs I can do without any specialist tools.

Just trying to get a rough idea for costs - if near the 20k euros mark then this would be a deal breaker.
 
I only have a 42' boat with 2 x VP 370hp diesels - I have an engineer do the work and I buy the parts - engineer is usually £600 and parts about the same - excluding any "issues" of course. I used to do DIY but the cost is pretty reasonable - here on the Solent
 
ClaytonDJ said:
Good afternoon knowledgable ones.
Anyone on here have recent experience of the annual costs of maintaining/servicing a 1996 Sunseeker Camargue 47 (with Caterpillar 3208 TA -435hp) engines.
I'm looking at one in the Med and broker has indicted I need to allow around 20k euros per year (around 17k GBP) for maintenance and servicing.
The engines have been regularly serviced - and have around 2,000 hours on them

I'm no mechanic but willing to learn/use You tube videos and have a go at jobs I can do without any specialist tools.

Just trying to get a rough idea for costs - if near the 20k euros mark then this would be a deal breaker.
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ClaytonDJ said:
Good afternoon knowledgable ones.
Anyone on here have recent experience of the annual costs of maintaining/servicing a 1996 Sunseeker Camargue 47 (with Caterpillar 3208 TA -435hp) engines.
I'm looking at one in the Med and broker has indicted I need to allow around 20k euros per year (around 17k GBP) for maintenance and servicing.
The engines have been regularly serviced - and have around 2,000 hours on them

I'm no mechanic but willing to learn/use You tube videos and have a go at jobs I can do without any specialist tools.

Just trying to get a rough idea for costs - if near the 20k euros mark then this would be a deal breaker.
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Annually you will need an oil change, check all the belts, check for leaks. Check water strainers and sea cocks all ok. £1000 ish. I do my own checks and oil change. Checks = £0. My oil change (Cat 3126 Dita’s), 25 litres per engine plus new filter. £125 per engine. Took about 3 hours, plus 30 mins to warm the engines.
I change the impellers every 3 years. These are large impellers and have never looked worn. These are £50 ish each. You might need a technician for this, as you have to remove the water hoses, and take the pump off the engine. Budget 4 hours tops.
Coolant change every 3-4 years, plus if the engines are starting to run a little warmer, clean out the heat exchangers and charge air coolers. 5-6 hours?
Change drive belts when they are looking worn. They might need an intermediate tighten. 1 hour max per engine.
Fuel filters every 100 hours or 2 years.
Generator oil and filter. £50 tops. Check belts and tighten or replace as needed.
If you have other systems like aircon, water maker, costs start to ramp.
 
I agree with the above that EUR 20k/year for engine service/maintenance sounds very expensive unless that includes some sort of reserve account for big ticket items or eventual engine replacement. I think you should try contacting a few service people in your area to get their opinion on annual costs.

EDIT: I just re-read your post and realise that I maybe misunderstood whether you were asking about strict engine service/maintenance costs or the entire service/maintenance costs for the boat!
 
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Can the broker not show you the service records for the boat? You should be able to verify the figures he's suggesting.
 
The budget for annual maintenance and servicing will obviously vary a lot based on where you are in the Med, how much of the work you will do yourself and how much you plan to shop around to find the lowest price for everything versus selecting trusted local providers who will be there when you need them at short notice. The amount of EUR 20K suggested by the broker seems high but not completely crazy ... at least based on my experience in the SoF.

Many buyers of this type/size of boat will outsource everything and will have some sort of monthly guardiennage/cleaning service to look after the boat when they're not there (compulsory in some marinas), use an authorised service agent for the engines/gearbox servicing (not so many choices for Caterpillar) and go to one of the local shipyards for annual lift out/antifoul (few to choose between and most don't allow you to do the work yourself or to use your own contractors). Add in the cost of servicing the generator and tender, a modest allowance for routine replacements and repairs and a small contingency and you get close to the amount proposed by the broker.
 
I"m based on Sof with a 17m boat. Lift and antifoul 2.5k, engine and generator service 2k. Guardienage 1k. Obviously running repairs and improvements not included, but usually 1 - 5k. Mooring 14 k. All prices in euros.
 
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