Anchors for the East Coast

[Hunson]

Questions oh questions.

Seeing as there is a couple of anchors in for sale. I would be grateful again for your local knowledge/advice.

On our little sonata we have a bruce style anchor, can't be anymore than 5kg, with chain and warp (haven't actually looked at it in depth).

As this is our main anchor, what would the local panel suggest for a secondary. Or should I purchase a larger one and use our current as a kedge, if so which style for our glorious mud.

Gary.

 

[JKay]

Sounds like a fair swop to me /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I use a 6kg Delta and I must say it does excactly what its supposed to,If its good enough for the RNLI its good enough for me

Cheers Joe

 

[Koeketiene]

East Coast = mud = CQR

 

[sailorman]

Wot u have is ok
we have used a "Real " Bruce for 20 yrs
a 35Lb CQR stowed under the port q berth for a real blow still unused after 29 yrs

 

[Koeketiene]

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a 35Lb CQR stowed under the port q berth for a real blow still unused after 29 yrs

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Yeah - but you don't go out much /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[Hunson]

Ok the bruce is fine, but should I relegate this to a kedge and get a different heavier one as the main or get a different type.

What would people think was exceptional overkill for anchor weight considering the 1115kg displacement.

 

[sailorman]

See previous post /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[sailorman]

Give me time Ole Chep /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[Hunson]

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I did, but I was taking that you have a 37ft boat and that a 15kg cqr might be a bit of over kill of our 23ft.

Sorry to have offended. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[Pye_End]

Depends a bit on where you anchor, and whether you leave her unattended in at all challenging conditions. If you do then I would go for something a tadge bigger (I used to have a 25lb CQR on my Sonata, although would now go for something better eg Delta upwards).

 

[sailorman]

we have 1 x 10kg Bruce +30 m 8m/m chain spliced to 30 m 18 m/m Anchor plait
1 x 35Lb CQR ( Storm ) om 18 m/m Nylon 3 strand
1 x Fortress 5Kg Kedge

 

[Tidewaiter2]

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Ok the bruce is fine, but should I relegate this to a kedge and get a different heavier one as the main or get a different type.

What would people think was exceptional overkill for anchor weight considering the 1115kg displacement.

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Well, depends on your physical strength- Sonata's tend not to have windlasses. I reckon that 5kg Bruce plus 10--20 of 8mm, plus your warp(say 30m of 10mm) should cover most of your anchoring.
We had approx. the same Bruce/warp/chain for our Redfox (about same wieght all up)plus a 6kg Delta with same chain/warp mix plus the small Fortress(1.1kg?) with 10m of 8mm/10mm 3 strand warp x 10m- we cruised rather than raced mind.

With a few spare shackles, you could always deploy both anchors in tandem, or in a V.

I admit to being a Bruce fan- they have never failed to dig in and hold for us, even off the Irish east coast which is rocky.

Getting it well dug in and a good catenary for the depth/bottom is the main thing with whatever anchor you have.
My neck would be on a Bruce & Delta, deployed per bottom- sand/mud or weed on top as needed.

 

[MoodySabre]

This site has info on types and recommends weight of anchor for various boat lengths
http://www.euphoriasailing.com/Marine-Engineering/Anchor-selection.htm

I'm not into anchoring so I can't say if the 25lb Plough type on my 4000kg displacement 31footer is right or not. I hope to find out soon!

 

[sailorman]

[Well, depends on your physical strength- Sonata's tend not to have windlasses. I reckon that kg Bruce plus 10--20 of 8mm, plus your warp(say 30m of 10mm) should cover most of your anchoring. ]

The Sonata will sail too "Bows Down" Dive Dive Dive. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
6 m/m chain is quite adequate & most anchoring will be in less that say 5 mts depth

 

[Hunson]

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Well, depends on your physical strength-

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Lets just say that I have managed to hold onto the boat with the main and no2 up and providing a good deal of drive, for about 20 minutes, before help arrived to get me out of the pickle I had put us in.

Thanks Guys, I will have a talk with swmbo, she is getting itchy feet and will be looking for us to go further afield from the blackwater.

 

[sailorman]

[swmbo, she is getting itchy feet and will be looking for us to go further afield from the blackwater.]

try her on the piles @ west mersea /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

best of luck
you learn by your mistakes, well some of us do ( Eventually /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif )

 

[bastonjock]

i went for overkill on my anchor,my boat weighs 2400lbs,i went for a 10kg real delta,with 30meters of 8 mil chain backed by70meters of rode.

I recently anchored overnight in an exposed location in a force 5-6,my boat did not budge an inch.

ask yourself,"do you want to sleep at night" /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[JKay]

And Mr Baston

You think they will listen? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Cheers Joe

 

[sailorman]

Im not sure the Delta is the best choice /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

Well, i'm thoroughly impressed with my Delta.... much better than the previous CQR.... but for the East coast, with thick mud, I personally don't think the anchor type matters that much!